Reason users: i DO NOT feel sorry for you

[Cold Truth]

man

i hear all the time

"all i got is reason and a stupid midi keybaord to make beats with"

you all need to dead that talk. i just got a reason 3 demo...

and i've owned mpc's, tritons, roland xp boards, motifs, i run cubase sx currently... i have waves. i have a lot of very good software and have owned the "standards" in hardware.
the preset patches in the sampler and synth are pretty good. the drums are very good. the maelstrom synth is VERY capable.... very intuitively designed. a programming idiot can pick it up and get moving off the jump. there are very good refills available as well.... which i have also heard. the mastering effects rate favorably with the ones i currently have.... which are waves gold, mainly. all this without scratching the surface...

reason and a high end computer with sound card and monitors/headphones today costs what my first low end setup- dr 202, sp 202, and a four track did 6 years ago..... $1200.

i will always have a hardware affinity..... and i will always have softwrae affinity, and i will likely always have a mix of both in my setup.

but people act like "poor ol me, this crummy old reason program is all i have"... dead that talk. reason is a VERY capable program. i got cubase sx for 400- but i still had to add a mastering suite, i had to add vst plug ins, i had to add a LOT of things. reason gives you everything necessary right out the box- with very good upgradeable pieces optional. i dont want to hear the "woe is me" talk when cats say they "only" have reason. you can do anything anyone with anything else can do, and then some.

great program.

[RigorMortis]

the cats i know that use reason have never complained about it and it is a good program true.

[Cold Truth]

maybe im mistaken... but it always seems like reason users present themselves as second class citicens becaus ethey have reason and not some huge rig...

[RigorMortis]

could be havent noticed that...
in most cases the rule applies, get to know what you are using as good as possible then the power is yours...

[afriquedeluxe]

this is exactly how ive felt for time, reason is as capable as any of that hardware stuff out there people brag about. anyone that knows reason well enuff will never whine about its capabilities, id rather have reason than a triton extreme or roland phantom, back in the day which i thought was everything.

[Cold Truth]

i dunno bout the fantom thing, lol....

no, if you ask me reason is on par with those though. it just gives you a differnet way of doing the same things....

[bhunt]

same here I own a MPC4000 ASR-10 and I have been into reason for about 2 years and reason is the truth. I can't get the ASR-10 sound but reason is just as good. I don't know where all the fuss comes from

[Fade]

Who the hell is complaining about Reason? I don't think I've ever seen anyone complain. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[bigdmakintrax]

Dawg I had reason B4 2.5 and when I didn't have my equipment or access to it,I sold a lot of beats off of that program and the thing when I go back and listen is damn did I make that beat how come I mixed that beat sounding so good....I just love being ancient fuck it and staying with gear...LOl its Clean as F....the Drums sound like the sample so yeh you completely skip that whole mixing step and dealing with the external mixing....(yeah but I know you do the same thing in there) but its different outcome.....I do not feel sorry for anyone with reason its a sick ass program.....

[Cold Truth]

people dont complain per se... but i hear it all the time- "alli got is reason" "all afrique uses is reason" "man i made this dope ass beat using just reason"

and i tried the demo, and it left me thinking "why are these cats actin like reason is some lil ol program?" cause its always "man all i got is reason" they are complaining... but when i hear people or see posts online and people say "all i got is" or i "just" have, things like that- it alludes to reason being a step down somehow.

[Steel Side]

Reason is a virtual dream studio. Ok maybe I stretched it, but I have the demo and I'm in love. Only thing I'm complaining about is not knowing how to fully use it and the 20 min time limit.

Anybody care to donate to the steel side ultimate studio fund?
-over-

[Fury]

Shyt i use reason now and i used to use the triton but fuck that..reason is the fuckin shyt and there aint not reason to feel ashamed cuz u dont use a keyboard and mpc's or w.e fuck it reason works like everything else and its good as hell..

[Nnxt]

Shyt i use reason now and i used to use the triton but fuck that..reason is the fuckin shyt and there aint not reason to feel ashamed cuz u dont use a keyboard and mpc's or w.e fuck it reason works like everything else and its good as hell..

LMao I gotta agree with Cold on this one

Yea Same here FuriouZ i had a Mpc, triton few racks then Picked up on reason

[Producer X]

people dont complain per se... but i hear it all the time- "alli got is reason" "all afrique uses is reason" "man i made this dope ass beat using just reason"

and i tried the demo, and it left me thinking "why are these cats actin like reason is some lil ol program?" cause its always "man all i got is reason" they are complaining... but when i hear people or see posts online and people say "all i got is" or i "just" have, things like that- it alludes to reason being a step down somehow.

I think the "all i use" or the "all i have" is more of a brag than a complaint. Like "all I have is this $350 software and you have $20,000 worth of gear and my shit's hotter than yours" Reason is a hot program. Here's something for the doubters, I saw Just Blaze at a conference last week and he said out of his mouth that he's seriously considering using Reason. I'm still using 2.5 and I ain't mad at all. (I still use hardware too though)

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[Cleverwon]

Reason Rules.

[classic]

reason is nice, i plan on using it as a softsynth do to my mpc. Still cant fuck wit the MPC's sequncer though ;) lol

[Cold Truth]

^^^agreed on the sequencer.... thats still my favortie sequencer....

[Producer X]

reason is nice, i plan on using it as a softsynth do to my mpc. Still cant fuck wit the MPC's sequncer though ;) lol


LOL.....A sequencer's, a sequencer's....Just give me a metronome and let me rock!!!!

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BTW...Wud up Class...Long time Bruh...

[O-H-TEN]

I have to agree that Reason is the joint! I recently was kinda forced into using it in order to continue to make beats after some of my hardware went down. I was amazed at how simple it was to get started. I've always heard people giving Reason praise, and now I know why. I was one of those "Damn, all I got now is Reason to make beats with" fools. LOL! Man was that a dumb statement! Only because I didin't know anything about it. Now that I've actually took the time to learn the program; I love it! I think I'll be getting Reason 3.0 as soon as my new computer comes in.
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[Shwaz]

I think the "all i use" or the "all i have" is more of a brag than a complaint. Like "all I have is this $350 software and you have $20,000 worth of gear and my shit's hotter than yours" Reason is a hot program. Here's something for the doubters, I saw Just Blaze at a conference last week and he said out of his mouth that he's seriously considering using Reason. I'm still using 2.5 and I ain't mad at all. (I still use hardware too though)

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This is diffidently the case. It is no complaint. Reason users are proud as shit cause they got the best thing in producing going, and it was cheap. Definitely a brag that they can do shit that people have spent thousands on gear doing.

[MGTheFuture]

i did - their re-drum = trash

no audio in = trash

no time stretch = trash / recyle time stretch = trash

But everything else is good - however, the synths are as warm or as thick as the real things - and never will be...thats hwy i like analog in the first place..its presence. So i just ignore reasons.

And as far as its SOUNDS being up there with Roland and Korg - DEFINETELY not its FSB disk...i dunno who smoking that greenery..and why...but id get a TRiton Xtreme WAY before I pick up a FSB disk...especially if you put them at the same price.

Reason is the best STandalone Software i seen so far - cuz its library is so huge...but i think ableton got them feature wise...

[Shonsteez]

Ive been using it for roughly 5 yrs now since version 1 and ive always been quite pleased with the prgm....

IMO the prgms always been a powerhouse, people just trip on it cuz its the new form of constructing a song versus tha tradtional analogue approach.....beats are still dope tho its just a new format.

[BROUSSARD BEATS]

yea i know some songs out that was made with reason from major artist
reason and pro tools reason and Dp4 im thinking about getting reason to put on my dell laptop
just for beat making and just use my mac for studio recording....

[KurtisRich]

I agree. Reason is a great program. Sometimes, it doesn't matter what you use to make beats, its how you use it and how it will sound when you're finished.

[Rhythmikal]

reasons a great program and i do see people complain about it. i dont really like the drum or synth presets, but i know these can be upgraded.

also that drum machine, im not into the way you sequence with that. i think that FL is a hell of alot easier for programming drums.

[Shwaz]

Reason is a powerful sampler. The other stuff is just add-ons. If you use it like a powerful, customizable sampler, you will get the best results.

[Shonsteez]

reasons a great program and i do see people complain about it. i dont really like the drum or synth presets
Fucka "preset" tho!....Its best to try and get into the habbit of NOT even using presets since they limit you in the first place. Im jus sayin cuz the irony in that is the synths that reason provides are more than capable of modeling really dope textures and sounds....It all comes down to toying with the parameters and seeing what u can make, then later on save your own patch. BOOM! Dope presets that dont suckass.

[Nick Diamond]

im working with Reason over 4 years
..... It's great for drum programing ,.. i even use re-drum as a wav sempler...
but his electro-sounds, sound very limited.
But it's cool tool if you use Reason thru Rewire with Cubase than you can expand sounds on the another level. Add a midi keyboard... and basicly thats all you need.

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[drebeatz]

Reason was a life saver for. I remember i had decided to quite producing and sold all my gear. When i figured out I couldnt live with making beats, Reason was all I could get my hands on at the time, and it did just as much as my first setup did: Mpc 2000, kurzweil k2000, Cool Edit Pro 2.0. So reason is whats up!

[breakbeat-cafe]

reason is cool, and like you say it's more than capable....

all said and done....it's down to the producer to make something hot....kit can help polish stuff sure....but it's gotta be will composed. pharrell lays all his ideas out on an old 0/1w and that's prehistoric compared to reason.

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[ManDAmyth]

I got Reason Adapted when I bought my M-Box 2, it's not even the full version and I've made some SHIT on that.

[PrOLifiK]

Yes you CAN do anything in reason but those factory sounds are cheesy as hell....I havent heard if they changed it in reason 3.0 though cuz I have 2.0

[Agent Smith]

luckily you can tweak the hell up out of them...

and yea they added some new patches in 3.0. a lot more hip hop oriented stuff in my opinion...they finally added an 808 style kick drum and some more bass patches etc...

[Jimba Frosty]

man NNXT should drop some knowlage cos son can school EEVRYONE when it comes to that shit man. DROP SOME KNOWLAGE FOR THE PPL WHO DONT KNOW lol

[MarkN]

yo i been using since i started producing so i know the program inside out now, i started on 2.5 but im using threee its a really good program all those beats i posted up when i can 2nd in the battle that... they were reason beats and when i came 2nd in the last beat this ..... that was a reason beat ! theres nothing wrong with the program the only problem i had is obviously you can't chop samples so i just use adobe audition to do that then import the samples in reason and sequence out there ! recently i got some gear tho so now im guna be using my MPC to sequence using reason as more of a sound source for my keyboard and then dumping everything into pro tools ! its like anything tho if you know how to use it you will appreciate how good it is if you don't know how to you use it you wil call it wack !

[wavez]

got reason, usin it, and lovin it :) if someone would buy a beat from me then first thing i would do is buy it.:o

[Carpe Diem]

reason is dope.... sure its been said 1000 times, but its imagination that gets you places, not the program....

[konartis]

i used to always think i was limited. and after a while, the stock sounds really do suck. but they are still decent. now ive gotten the sonic reality gold pack with 20 volumes of refills and i gotta say woahhh... for 400 (refills) plus a couple hundred for reason you have a more capable studio than any workstation. now if propellerhead just implemented VST support for 3.5/4.0 :)

[Sanova]

I feel superior as a reason user. no complaints here

[Burna]

I feel superior as a reason user. no complaints here


MHM, indeed. i verry much agree

[alkota]

Im moving from the mpc 2000XL to reason 3... shits way more effecient, some of that analog umphhh to the beat is gone, but you can run your mix through an analog board and get a good sound... overall Reason 3.0 is as or more (more in my opinion) capable than the mpc's

[thedreampolice]

"recyle time stretch = trash"

what? the principals behind recycle are basically what all other time strech software is based of off. If you cant get recycle or .rex files to work you dont know what you are doing. Recycle always gives me better results the acid, sonar or abelton.

[MastaMariucci]

I believe "Wonder", who made T.I.'s "What You Know" beat uses reason and used reason to make that beat. They had an interview on youtube with him. That should serve as an example of hat you can do with it right there.

[DJ Increment]

used reason 4 like 2 years ....yeah its good but i think its just 2 easy 4 me 2 just sit there tweaking away... hoping 2 crack it with out putting any real thought in 2 it ...so im a stick 2 my mpc ...but then u no how it is....what ever works...

[BROUSSARD BEATS]

shit reason is good i no for a fact some of pimp c beats where make with reason
because i know one of the producers who uses it.

[KurtisRich]

The only reason why some people hate on people that uses software to make beats is because they're jealous. They spent thousands of dollars on their equipments and can't make anything hott while a person who spent let's say 50 bucks on a software and bangs out fire. I use both hardware and software so I'm not gonna debate over which is better. All I have to say is that it's the new age of technology so take advantage right guys?

[thedreampolice]

What ever you can make hot beats with!

[Formant024]

The only reason why some people hate on people that uses software to make beats is because they're jealous. They spent thousands of dollars on their equipments and can't make anything hott while a person who spent let's say 50 bucks on a software and bangs out fire. I use both hardware and software so I'm not gonna debate over which is better. All I have to say is that it's the new age of technology so take advantage right guys?

lol, this new age technology is based on emulation of vintage gear, excluding sampling. In general its a price/quality concession so that you can enjoy a semi full setup even if you have one piece of hardware or not, but even good software performs best with good hardware ( audiocards ). Yes you can say that you can bang out beats with just the budget version of fl, hell I've runn FL5 on P1 and you couldnt tell the difference. This is all very relative but the example of hot tracks being released from a low budget setup always gets extra treatment down the studio during mixing and finalized during mastering, but how many have had that situation ( out of the gazillion producers at home worldwide )....

not many indeed.

[Elementree]

i feel sorry for reason users cause i can make the same quality beat as someone with reason who owns a bunch of hardware in like five minutes on FL. Plus i dont have to play shit. Reason is still the shit though, i love all their weird preset sounds that it comes with, that maelstrom is the shit too!

[wizard]

yeah............. finally...wazsup everyone......im new to all this................i have no complants about reason3.0.............i love it ..... i finally got a beats on myspace..the structure is sloppy .but i made it all with reason.....theres only one beat on there for now check it out..................MYSPACE.COM/WAWBEATZ...... since i was introduce to reason2.5 .i had to get reason3.0.... i use reason for a good 2-3 years .and im always learning something new.......and wit the mclass suite in 3.0 its ill..... lol..illmuzik

[wizard]

WE HAVE THE OLD BEATS THAT WERE HERE MIX WITH SOME NEW ,ENDING IT WITH "ONE OT THESE DAYS"........ ON TRACK 1..........."CAN'T QIUT" IS ON NOW ..............THE NEXT TRACK THE SAMPLE IS A LITTLE SLOPY ....... IM JUST STARTING TO UNDERSTAND RECYCLE 2.O........ "R.I.P. falling victims" ............ IS dedicated to all the falling victims around the world!......."R.I.P falling victims"......................1 luv to illmuzik........and everyone on here!!! peace.................yours truly the............. "wizard"................

[MGTheFuture]

I run reason 3.0

and have Motif ES, Fantom X, Triton Studio Refill (90 gigs)...

and i cant dare and wont dare ever say I "need" something ever again...


throw recycle in the mix to make drum kits, breaks, cuts

and its a WRAP.

[DJjMC]

I've been using Reason since the days of Reason 1.0!
Without Reason, I wouldn't be working as a producer/engineer right now.

Reason is a very powerful tool and I know why some people have a dim view on it!
Hours of programming and software development went into Reason to make it a 'virtual studio.' Because of these great efforts, producing music became (almost) effortless since you can make music in the comfort of your own home. In some people opinion, too easy to use = unprofessional. In my opinion, the development behind this software is amazing.
I still think that Reason is one of the easiest pieces of software to expand and make even more powerful (eg adding your own kits/samples etc).

Secondly, Reason is still 'software.'
I've known producers to assume that synths etc should be pure hardware whereas some sequencers should be software. Reason is available to download illegitimately for free, therefore some producers feel that people using Reason think they've become bedroom producers overnight!

My personal view is this: Reason has the ability to make almost any sound you can think of. It's just how you use it that can make Reason give you a mainstream release ready quality to a beginers bedroom quality.

Just because it's easy to get what you want, doesn't make this a kids toy!!
Reason is still today my favourite software!

[Holly Scott]

Reason Rules.

word!

[bigdmakintrax]

Quote me on this....if I were in a fight as competitive as production...namely hip hop production...I would want every available weapon in the arsenal to win!...yeah I said it...hardware or software...samples or composing you gotta be versatile nowadays to get the job done.

[Relic]

^ Now THATS word!

[The Bastard]

Who the hell is complaining about Reason? I don't think I've ever seen anyone complain. Correct me if I'm wrong.
i think i mighta complained about it one time, lol, i like fl better,jus seems more practical,prolly the closest thing to an mpc,software wise

[N.Y.S.O.M.]

i think i mighta complained about it one time, lol, i like fl better,jus seems more practical,prolly the closest thing to an mpc,software wise




im feelin Reason at first i didnt kno wut Reason was now that i did research im lovin it i use it as a sound module for my mpc 1k dangerous tag team

[33LaRge]

thats what i noticed too Reason is crazy if my pac could handle id buy it oya and if i could afford it