How do you, vinyl heads, find your samples?

[hpnotiq]

My question is after you cop a record, how do you go about listing to said record to find the samples you think are gonna be dope. like do you just listen to the whole thing straight thro or what? get at me with your ways.

[themucka]

you gotta listen the record i mean you can tell when there are open sapces for sampling or breaks....

but i neva buy records without listening 2 them first unless im at a thrift shop,,,, my trusty handy track from vestax neva leaves my truck,,,,

there more you dig there more you'll get the feel for it. there no magic trick that helps you find the raw sample its jus digging digging and more digging

my reply double for some stupid reason...

"use your ears" and do your research

[hpnotiq]

word up... anyone elses methods?

[classic]

Just listen man....

class...

[MarkN]

lol how can you answer this question other than listen ?

like oh i run it thru my sample finder 4000 and it just picks out all the good bits i'll need to arranges them !

[hpnotiq]

nah man im just seeing how people do it wheter or not you listen to a whole ablum thro or jsut flick thro it. ovbiously one must listen to find the sounds

[Carpe Diem]

i sample from cd, aint yet got a turntable...

i usually check the intro, then the middle and outro...

if i like the sounds being used, then ill open up the wave and see if i can find a breakdown or anything else i can use....

[Chrono]

the handy track would be nice to get, it'd pay for itself in a year

[ed_sizzahanz]

You got to put in work and sit through the listening sessions. You gotta have an open mind and patience, because you are gonna have to sit through some garbage sometimes.

[themucka]

the handy track would be nice to get, it'd pay for itself in a year


it paid foritself the 1st day:thumb:

[Honesty]

it paid foritself the 1st day:thumb:

I disagree...

I just buy a bunch of records... I don't typically pay for that $2-3 a pop unless I know who the artist is...

But just buy a bunch of stuff... I've bought records because I like the cover art... real rap...

Buy it... throw on the turntable, let it play and go play some madden... Listen to the ENTIRE record... don't skip around, don't skip through songs... don't do anything like that... While the majority of my samples come from intros... I do on a occasion find good breaks around the bridge area... or elsewhere... so listen to the entire thing...

This is why I disagree w/ taking a turntable to buy records... I like the take my time... also... every tiem I listen to a record, something different jumps out at me... now if I'm pre-screening what I buy... I might be missing out on the sample that'll put me over the top.. .who knows...

[themucka]

I disagree...

I just buy a bunch of records... I don't typically pay for that $2-3 a pop unless I know who the artist is...

But just buy a bunch of stuff... I've bought records because I like the cover art... real rap...

Buy it... throw on the turntable, let it play and go play some madden... Listen to the ENTIRE record... don't skip around, don't skip through songs... don't do anything like that... While the majority of my samples come from intros... I do on a occasion find good breaks around the bridge area... or elsewhere... so listen to the entire thing...

This is why I disagree w/ taking a turntable to buy records... I like the take my time... also... every tiem I listen to a record, something different jumps out at me... now if I'm pre-screening what I buy... I might be missing out on the sample that'll put me over the top.. .who knows...


by that same theory you jus appkied you can be doing yourself an injustice... you could be saving and finding the raw samples and breaks by listening b4 you buy.. i dont kno about you but i leave the record stores with over a 75-100 dollars worth of hits errytime..

and jus because i prescreen doesnt meen i dont listen 2 the whole record or the song im sampling when i get 2 the lab...


when you spent over 5gs before on records than spent about 3gs more on records and all are winner you will bring the portable turntable errytime..

trust me.. i see jus blaze in ny all the time with a handy trak...

i aint trying 2 be madlib and flip erry record i buy 4 the sake of flipping it...

pz

[Honesty]

by that same theory you jus appkied you can be doing yourself an injustice... you could be saving and finding the raw samples and breaks by listening b4 you buy.. i dont kno about you but i leave the record stores with over a 75-100 dollars worth of hits errytime..

and jus because i prescreen doesnt meen i dont listen 2 the whole record or the song im sampling when i get 2 the lab...


when you spent over 5gs before on records than spent about 3gs more on records and all are winner you will bring the portable turntable errytime..

trust me.. i see jus blaze in ny all the time with a handy trak...

i aint trying 2 be madlib and flip erry record i buy 4 the sake of flipping it...

pz


I think the 'fun' of digging is... even if you don't find a sample that you can flip... which happens alot, even if I think I can flip it initially...

But the best part is just enjoying different types of music. I'm not droppin $5k on records... but when I'm really diggin I'm droppin $60-100 on Ebay a week and $60-70 in record stores...

With that said... I listen as a fan first and foremost... now honestly I don't like EVERY record I pick up... but I still listen to it as long as I can...lol... some of them are god awful sometimes, but more often than not I find something that I might not have picked up otherwise...

That and I just started diggin back in May... so I still have alot to learn about sampling... same way the original poster (at least it seems)... I'm still tryin to figure out what to look for...etc... so why not...

[Haze47]

i listen to the intro, if i feel the vibe of the track i will needle pick the whole track, see if there is anything if i find two LEAD samples on the vinyl ill buy it then listen to the whole thing back at home

[Chrono]

I usuially spend 3-4 bucks per thrift store.. but see i live in oklahoma and if i drive 30 minutes out of town i can find a mom/pop thrift store and cop an untouched supply. in tulsa you can't find shit from local music makers but out of town is ill. I'd like to put a handy track in my car to use at those times, i think i'd even take sampling more seriously because i'd know what i had before i got home. my place is a realm of a thousand distractions. wish i had more time.. i need a producing sponsor

[Skillz]

I had a thought the other day of asking my mum and dad, gran and grandad, and other family members if they had any vinyls i could listen to, i wish i hadnt asked everyone now lol

I'm over loaded with vinyl from all and ever era (mainly pre 90s though) Jazz, Pop, Balard, etc. So much choice and not enough hours in the day to listen through them all heh

One,
Skillz

[The Bastard]

Im Kind Of A Weirdo, I Hit Record In Audition And I Play The Record Al Lthe Way Through Lsitening To It, Then Ill Noise Reduction The Whole Recording And Go Back And Hit Play And Listen To It All Over Again, This Time As It Plkays, Every 5 Minutes Or So If I Dont Find A Sample Ill Delete Whut I Already Listened To, That Way If I Gutta Run I Can Just Savethe File And Pick Up Where I Left Off Later, And When I Find A Good Sample Ill Just Copy To New File And Save It Like That. Kind Of A Process But It Works Best For Me. I Did That Shit For 4 Hours Straight One Time,

[TymE]

Just listen man....

class...

hehehe

[Bobby Ffitch]

on the real, though, youre all wrong.

what i do is i pick a random track off the back of the sleeve, something that sounds tight from the track name. then ill put that song in, record the first 30 seconds or so on the first listen into my 1k, then chop that up. then ill descard what i dont use and listen to the rest of the track and pull more samples to accent whati already pulled.






kidding. but i do do that when i havent gone digging in a while and i want to practice and drill my skillz. sometimes its real real real hard to get a tight song, so you gotta work at it.

that way, when i get the dope samples, i can maximize my effectiveness.

[Stick_Man]

just a good pick... on the vinyl and a good ear for a new sound that you havent heard before

[trez260]

Let me get back to you on that yo, i'm bangin out one now. :D peace!

[djvlive]

on the real, though, youre all wrong.

what i do is i pick a random track off the back of the sleeve, something that sounds tight from the track name. then ill put that song in, record the first 30 seconds or so on the first listen into my 1k, then chop that up. then ill descard what i dont use and listen to the rest of the track and pull more samples to accent whati already pulled. kidding. but i do do that when i havent gone digging in a while and i want to practice and drill my skillz... effectiveness.

friggin A thats a good idea Colossus. ive been producin for a while but ive got to the point where i dont know how to "drill my skillz" to get better, most of what i do as far as sampling/production is becoming second nature...but i know i could be better...

But what i do in my diggin style: i started out by just finding any vinyl i could and just listening to intros really...if there was a cool instrument or something during the intro id sample that an use an old school sequencer SoundClub (http://www.bluemoon.ee/history/scwin/index.html... but after ive been doing it for like 3-4 years now ive got it a bit more tight.

i usually know what type of sound im lookin for going into it so ill usually just hit the used bins at my record spot (like old RnB, funk, or any pop/rock/stuff from the 70's - which is big around detroit here) and ill just flip through the records. after this long though ive got it pretty much on point... i can just listen to a lil bit of the song (like strait up needle droppin) to pretty much get the whole "vibe" of the track. which is both good and bad... cause sometimes i flip through stuff to fast and i miss good intros or what but it also sucks when i find a really dope track that i really wanna sample but i cant find a good spot or i cant get a chop without some vocals or somethin... but i donno...

when i dig, after this long ive pretty much learned what i like... so i would say just start listenen to a ton of stuff and learn all about what you DONT like, then you can start getting picky about what you sample... like i learned that checkin dates can be key... a lotta funk/soul in the 60's isnt really sample quality (its too pop-vocal heavy), but i learned that just about anything from the 70's is gonna have hot drums and warm strings/horns/pianos and just about anything from the 80's is gonna sound really super thin (in fidelity and in instrumentation) and have too many programmed drums/synths/noises... also ive learned what are good record lables and which ones arnt so a lot of stuff i can tell if its going to be hit or miss just by looking at the label or the side of the record case. of course there are always exceptions tho... sorry for length.. please bring disagreements/opinions.. im always lookin to better my skills

[Ash Holmz]

i buy records strictly on covers... i dont dig for records just to sample from them ...i collect records be cause theirs alot of strange music you cant find in any other formats

[FTdub]

Whenever I go out to buy, the majority of what I buy comes from researching the artist or past experiences good or bad, but I always gamble on 3-4 records of which I have no prior knowledge. Then from the gamble I always learn something plus I have found plenty of diamonds in the rough. But even on the gambles, you are still making educated guesses based on cover, label, year, city recorded in. Digging for records is like shopping for wine. After buying the record, I take it home and listen all of the way through while recording it into audition. Then I set markers and go back and scrutinize each track. If I like it all the way, I put it into my Ipod for future listening. If I like pieces I sample them into my eps or sp1200 and save them. If i don't find anything redeeming I just press delete. Then there are more instances of finding samples from further listening in my Ipod.

[5th Sequence]

I listen to the intro's. If it has any potential what so ever I'll needle drop through the whole thing. If I'm jus loungin I'll just let the record play it really depends. If I'm in the middle of making a beat andlooking for something I can sample to add to it then I'm needle skipping at a very fast rate. I sample a lot of sounds, anything and whatever. I'll pitch it up and down to see if anything might fit the groove and I've come across a lot of stuff that works when dramatically pitched in someway. Stuff you wouldnt normally expect. It's also a good idea to sample every single open drum hit you can off of intro's. Even if you don't totally like it. you get a huge huge collection of original and unique drum sounds to work with with later on.

Peace!!

[bhunt]

I usually only get the 50 cent joints, I tent to look for lables and players, or odd covers and I always buy soundtracks made before 75. I usually don't buy anything made in the 80 that was a wack period of music besides hip hop. And listen and practice. It takes time to devlop what to sample. Also if you can't find anything to sample just build up sounds. Like organ, and string licks. horns anything that might be usefull in a songs. I have made beats withs with 5-6 different records. Practice and listen is key

[joeburnem]

I listen to a lot of old or obscure music anyway.

I find artists I like then study them and their discogrophy and to what other artists they may be linked. Then when I dig I have SOME Idea of what I running across.