finally got my first mpc

[Mantas]

today i bought the classic 2000..and i must say its amazing!!!!!! i always thought that u can do the same ish with both software and hardware...but now i realize hardware is a way better!! sound is absolutely awesome!! any tips for a newbie??

damn, i fell in love with my 2000.....

[Formant024]

amazing what zero latency control does for you ey lol!

yeah, expand it with an internal zip drive, or external via scsi. I dunno if there's support for a flash media bay installation instead of a zipdrive for the classic 2k but that's practical too. Also scsi4samplers have nice combo units, cdrom and hd into a minitower at a fair price.

[misscc803]

You can not put a SCSI or IDE Drive internally into the MPC inless u get some pricey modification done. You can use an external drive which can be bought from ebay or www.scsi4samplers.com

In about 3 or 4 months i will be installing internal drives in the mpc2000 along with other features. I will keep you posted.

[Formant024]

there are ide 2 scsi sockets, for real they should help out the pricey modifications. I've also heard that the xl doesnt really need the os 1.15 to support the flash media bay. But i have no info on the classic model regarding this.

[Mantas]

dope..what about cleaning mpc? is a dry cloth enough?

[Formant024]

yeah, there isnt much to clean but you can pop the cover open and give it a good rinse. Mine has gained the nicotine color, im diggin it hehe.

[slik da relic]

congrats... welcome to the land.... OF HARDWARE!!!!

da relic

[Formant024]

right, you cannot add the to the mpc2k, you'd be depending on the scsi port from the motherboard. In that case the scsi4samplers Combo would be nice, I assume they have cardreaders, cd-rom and hd all optional... in any case the best solution and not that expensive. Second and smaller solution would be an external scsi cardreader, midicase suggest the microtech PCD-40 ( http://www.midicase.com/card_reader_guide.htm )


External SCSI card readers are actually an internal card reader in a $5 box with a connector and power supply. This is a good option for MPC2000 owners as this model has no internal SCSI (without expensive modifications). If you get an external card reader, you can use it as is for any model. The PCD-40 is an exception as it was built as a external model only, sort of like a SCSI Zip, but I have a suspicion it is based on the PCD-25.

[misscc803]

there are ide 2 scsi sockets, for real they should help out the pricey modifications. I've also heard that the xl doesnt really need the os 1.15 to support the flash media bay. But i have no info on the classic model regarding this.

No because they are goin to be 40pin which the MPC doesnt contain 40 pin it contains 34 pin. The MPC2000 does not have an internal SCSI or place for an 40 pin drive. It would take modification once again to complete.

If you find a SCSI to 34 pin socket please show me.

[Formant024]

hehe im on it

[Mantas]

what will happen if i expand memory with 32 mb card from pc?? does it cause any damage??

[Formant024]

hehe..right i need some gearporn, im look for the 20pin socket, if its there than I think I know what protocol has been used, now im guessing ACSI-SCSI, but that needs 20 pin connector to drive, 1 is a 34 pin as you mentioned but it would also need a 20 pin connector to hook up.

[misscc803]

what will happen if i expand memory with 32 mb card from pc?? does it cause any damage??


I responded to your pm about this. I listed the compatible ones i know but like i stated in the pm you can buy the memory from ebay from sellers who are selling actual compatible chips. The link below is to a seller saleing memory. You will get two chips for that price. 16mb each. Which is cheaper than that link u sent me.

Nicole

http://cgi.ebay.com/32MB-MEMORY-UPGRADE-AKAI-MPC-2000-S3000XL-S2000-S5000_W0QQitemZ7411636111QQcategoryZ38070QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[misscc803]

hehe..right i need some gearporn, im look for the 20pin socket, if its there than I think I know what protocol has been used, now im guessing ACSI-SCSI, but that needs 20 pin connector to drive, 1 is a 34 pin as you mentioned but it would also need a 20 pin connector to hook up.


Just know this. There really isnt an easy way out. There are two ways of goin about it but im not goin to discuss. But one thing i can tell you is if you DO NOT know about schematics, soldering, electical wiring, and at least computer/electronic building then this job is not for you.

You can have it done for 300 bucks which includes the drive at Forat.

www.forat.com

[Formant024]

i think i got a 10 and 25 euro solution hehe

[N.U.G.]

today i bought the classic 2000..and i must say its amazing!!!!!! i always thought that u can do the same ish with both software and hardware...but now i realize hardware is a way better!! sound is absolutely awesome!! any tips for a newbie??

damn, i fell in love with my 2000.....

what's so amazing about it bro?

[Formant024]

hah, I really need someone to open op their classic and take a snapshot of the 34 pin connector. Appearantly there are some discontinued media drives with 3'5 drive (HD/DD)

[misscc803]

The 34 pin connector is the same 34 pin u use on a standard 3.5 floppy drive. There are some discontiued drives but that would be stupid to go from floppy to a slower loading/saving device. Thats why its a better step to go to a zip drive. Think about it. As far as Hard drives i dont know much cause i havent put that into my research cause im not worried about an internal hard drive as of now.

Nicole

[Solace]

Yo MANTAS Why Is This MPC Hardware Soooo Better Than Software? List Some Reasons Why???

[Mantas]

its better imho because:

1) the sounds i put in it sounded absolutely different (i mean quality is better) than they sound on pc;
2) the workflow is awesome..i was bangin a few sequences in like 10 minutes w/o reading a manual..
3) the pads are dope..i have midi keyboard and was messing with mpd16..they aint nothing compared to the mpc's pads..mpc's pads give me absolutely a different feeling than a midi controller..
4) that note repeat button is dopeness..i wont need to click every note on my pc to make a drum roll..
5) it's a classic model..
6) i bought it for only $140 ;)
7) it saves my eyes..now i dont need to look at my pc all the time..
8) that's all i can say for now, cause i bought it only YESTERDAY...

[N.U.G.]

its better imho because:

1) the sounds i put in it sounded absolutely different (i mean quality is better) than they sound on pc;
2) the workflow is awesome..i was bangin a few sequences in like 10 minutes w/o reading a manual..
3) the pads are dope..i have midi keyboard and was messing with mpd16..they aint nothing compared to the mpc's pads..mpc's pads give me absolutely a different feeling than a midi controller..
4) that note repeat button is dopeness..i wont need to click every note on my pc to make a drum roll..
5) it's a classic model..
6) i bought it for only $140 ;)
7) it saves my eyes..now i dont need to look at my pc all the time..
8) that's all i can say for now, cause i bought it only YESTERDAY...

that's dope man

best of luck with it bro

by, the way are you chopping samples on the MPC too?

[Mantas]

^^^ nah..i would if i had the xl version..if i wanted to chop on my 2000, i would need to copy each sample again and again..it doesnt have that zone edit (not sure if its that what i mean) function..but who cares..it reads .wav..i can easilly do chopping on my pc..

[N.U.G.]

^^^

all good bro

i've been meaning to pick up a 2000XL a mate left for me when he moved to Japan. I want to get it but I also want to keep grinding on FL Studio and Reason at least until I master both programs

keen to hear your new beats too mate!

also man, do u plan to make anymore videos and what software did u use to make that Jay Z / DJ premier remake video?

[Mantas]

yea, definately..but im goin to do that in summer, cuz now im mad busy..i'll make a video with my mpc probably..

[N.U.G.]

^^^

dope stuff bro

[Formant024]

The 34 pin connector is the same 34 pin u use on a standard 3.5 floppy drive. There are some discontiued drives but that would be stupid to go from floppy to a slower loading/saving device. Thats why its a better step to go to a zip drive. Think about it. As far as Hard drives i dont know much cause i havent put that into my research cause im not worried about an internal hard drive as of now.

Nicole

Yeah, the 34 pin's FDD, but opposed to installing a HD or Zip I also found 3,5" HD/DD + 7-in-1card reader in FDD format. I found 3 models so far: Mitsumi, Ye-Yato and a Logitech. Cheapest one I encountered was about 21 euro but I dont have a mpc2k classic so its pointless for me to check it out much further. Ima hook up with a dutch buddy who has a classic and see how it goes.

[Solace]

$140 God Damn You Robbing People Again Mantas!!! Na But Thats A Ill Price Fam...

[misscc803]

Yeah, the 34 pin's FDD, but opposed to installing a HD or Zip I also found 3,5" HD/DD + 7-in-1card reader in FDD format. I found 3 models so far: Mitsumi, Ye-Yato and a Logitech. Cheapest one I encountered was about 21 euro but I dont have a mpc2k classic so its pointless for me to check it out much further. Ima hook up with a dutch buddy who has a classic and see how it goes.


Are you 100 percent sure b/c i know there are card readers with floppy on them but they also require USB and thats for the card reader. You can hook up an floppy cable to it but its not goin to power the card reader only the floppy drive so thats a waste. Send me a specific model number and I will tell if it will work or not. But all the ones i have researched over 100 require USB for the card reader.

Nicole

[Formant024]

okay its a tuff cookie indeed and you're right about your conclusion, nothing would work out except the forat mod. I assume they not only modded the zipdrive and made a custome edge adapter but also updated an OS to it. A cardreader wouldnt work because the 34pin transfer speed is to slow to handle flash media, consider the amount of storage to process. Another issue would be a storage able to boot from which also isnt always the case. I found 2 alternatives, tape storage....ehm very oldskool and rather noisy Im affraid. The second is via Sony Memory Stick Floppy Disk Adapter ( model no. MSAC-FD2MA ), though I havent tested ( and I cant since I dont own a classic ) this seems the only mass storage device that would work for the mpc2k. I've spotted them for 50 bucks new and considering there's a limit the mpc can read from, a 512 or 1gb memory stick should be sufficient enough to have fun with...especialy opposed to the 300buck forat upgrade for a 250mb zip...

again, I can be sure but this look likes the best bet for mass storage the mpc2k, If anyone's testing let me know. I passing this along a few friends who do have the 2k and will try this out...

http://www.cellphones4cheap.com/MSAC-FD2M.jpg

[Chrono]

that shit brings me back to the apple IIe days

[Mantas]

okay its a tuff cookie indeed and you're right about your conclusion, nothing would work out except the forat mod. I assume they not only modded the zipdrive and made a custome edge adapter but also updated an OS to it. A cardreader wouldnt work because the 34pin transfer speed is to slow to handle flash media, consider the amount of storage to process. Another issue would be a storage able to boot from which also isnt always the case. I found 2 alternatives, tape storage....ehm very oldskool and rather noisy Im affraid. The second is via Sony Memory Stick Floppy Disk Adapter ( model no. MSAC-FD2MA ), though I havent tested ( and I cant since I dont own a classic ) this seems the only mass storage device that would work for the mpc2k. I've spotted them for 50 bucks new and considering there's a limit the mpc can read from, a 512 or 1gb memory stick should be sufficient enough to have fun with...especialy opposed to the 300buck forat upgrade for a 250mb zip...

again, I can be sure but this look likes the best bet for mass storage the mpc2k, If anyone's testing let me know. I passing this along a few friends who do have the 2k and will try this out...

http://www.cellphones4cheap.com/MSAC-FD2M.jpg

yo thats dope!! thats what i REALLY need..anyone knows more info about this memory stick floppy disk adapter?? does it fit classic 2000?

[Mantas]

what about installing this??

http://tiek.sks.lt/sks_right.php?pr=3028

it says it has Standard 34-pin Ribbon

???

[Formant024]

^^same problem, they have 2 connectors, one 34pin fdd and usb. The USB cable should hook up to a motherboard USB but the mpc doesnt have that. And due to the transfer speed of 34pin fdd It unlikely to come across one, in those specs you have to look at a scsi cardreader but they will not runn internaly cuz it only runns scsi externaly. I found brand new Sony FDD adapter for 9 pounds, sealed n well, there's plenty to be found on ebay.

[misscc803]

What u listed above once again WILL NOT WORK b/c it requires drivers in order to be recognize. So people please dont spend your money on this. This was dissussed at the mpc forums site if u need referrence.

Formant024 not sure if u know this or not but no OS update is needed from Forat. Its a modification thing.

U just need to know the ins and outs of the MPC2000. I finally have it figured out but will I tell nope. But once its complete i will post up.

Nicole

[Formant024]

do you have a link to mpc forums about that ?

[misscc803]

You can do the search yourself but I know for sure that will not work. How will the mpc know to look for that since it cant have drivers installed? Thank about that.

Nicole

[misscc803]

Went ahead and did a search. By the way do u even own a mpc2000? I dont think u or the person who started this thread is goin to benefit(he may not want a internal zip drive). So im through with giving out information. I will only correct u if what u post will not work or is incorrect.

Nicole

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3411&highlight=floppy+drive+adapter

[Formant024]

Couldnt find anything that didnt say it wasnt bootable or anything. Mind you this is getting harder without a classic lol!

[misscc803]

Couldnt find anything that didnt say it wasnt bootable or anything. Mind you this is getting harder without a classic lol!

Let it go man cause nvm.... i aint worried no more cause once again it dont benefit you. Let his thread ride out.

~1~

Nicole

[Formant024]

hell no, this is fun. Im already looking at chipsets lol!

[misscc803]

hell no, this is fun. Im already looking at chipsets lol!

LOL you are crazy i like u!!!

Nicole

[Formant024]

PSI iisdmc2, did you have a look at that ?

[misscc803]

PSI iisdmc2, did you have a look at that ?


Yep seen those. They dont work b/c they are 40 pin. Plus the power supply is different. Trust me i know more than u think i know.

LOL

Talked with the reps awhile back they dont know much but they told me the specs thats all i needed to know. Its IDE=40 pin sometimes 39.

[Formant024]

Im not doubting you or your research, dont worry.

[misscc803]

Im not doubting you or your research, dont worry.

Cool but u know this is pointless right? LOL but ne ways what mpc do u actally have? Hit me up on aim or yahoo we is takin ova homeboy's thread.

Nicole

[Formant024]

guess we own the thread lol, pointless....hmmm no

unfortenatly im only at bill gates messenger, for what its worth control_terminus@hotmail.com

[Mantas]

dont need to look far..the solution is right here:

CR-3 MicroTech SCSI Media Card Drive for $90 from scsi4samplers

[Formant024]

That's a dope deal, scsi wise there are a lot of solutions, except internaly there's very little choice.

[misscc803]

LOL i already knew those SCSi devices exsit. Thats not what im worried about we talkin internal not external. Let me shut up before i offend someone.

Nicole

[misscc803]

dont need to look far..the solution is right here:

CR-3 MicroTech SCSI Media Card Drive for $90 from scsi4samplers

You can make that yourself. Get the SCSI card off ebay for like 10 bucks and a case only costs 10 bucks. I made my own SCSI CD Drive and Multicard reader for less than 90 bucks each. They sale some good stuff but if u wanna get technical all it is is a SCSI card reader in a box so it can become external.

Just like with an internal hard drive u can put it in an enclosure now u have an external hard drive.

Real simple and easy.

Nicole

[Formant024]

miiiisssyyyy

SCSI insider by IOMEGA... http://www.chickensys.com/asrx/IntZipDrive.html

Just got one and stumbled onto this cuz i want a scsi cardreader for the asrx, now I dont know if its the "scsi insider" or that they used it and modified it. If it is the appropiate solution than that would explain the 300 bucks forat charges cuz it would probably come it new scsi zipdrive. For the asrx there should be no problem whatsoever ( os is flashed in eprom so it doesnt need to be bootable but me thinks the device is capable of fitting a scsi cardreader for your mpc2000...

again, i dont have the classic and fat chance I will ever want one but still hehe

[misscc803]

^^^^

That kit doesnt work for mpc2000. Talked with two people from the site and said it doesnt work the mpc2000 though with some modification one could get another internal drive into their mpc2000 but at a high cost price. Its possible to add an internal drive but if SCSI is available then go that route. I know how to put in the internal drives but its not something i would see myself doing for others cause its a risk, takes time, and can get expensive.

Nicole

[Formant024]

right, why even bother with a classic lol

[misscc803]

Pretty much. Just use its SCSI and call it a day or upgrade.

Nicole