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Relic
02-09-2011, 01:13 PM
Whenever on the mic there is this half a second delay that is REALLY irritating to an MC, when I did the latest radio show I just took the damn headphones OFF because I couldnt deal with it after awhile and it wasnt like I was even trying stay on beat so I can imagine what its like to be rappin with that going on..

Any ideas on how to solve this?
lion-ucs
02-09-2011, 01:29 PM
Is this a regular occurrence?

Whats your setup?
dacalion
02-09-2011, 01:48 PM
Thats called "latency", it usually comes from the time it takes to transfer analog info to digital info. Your best fix would be finding a way to monitor whatever you're monitoring in your headphones before it converts in your gear.
Relic
02-09-2011, 02:43 PM
Well I have the phones plugged into the digi 003 rack... I dont see why the latency when its all in the same source...
Well I guess the source is the mic.. but is there no way to stop this?

Yeah Lion its a regular occurence.. Using PT 9 , just seems that its getting worse.
7thangel
02-09-2011, 03:37 PM
are you setting the lowest buffer rate?

how are you setting up the input channel and input monitoring?
wrightboy
02-09-2011, 03:41 PM
don't have PT, but i would think that there is a setting somewhere for latency, at least it is in every other audio program that i've used. play with the buffer size, and should should be able to get as little latency as possible.
dacalion
02-09-2011, 04:33 PM
are you setting the lowest buffer rate?

how are you setting up the input channel and input monitoring?

I think this is a PT problem or bug, usually a buffer of 128 or lower will appear to get rid of it but sometimes it will still happen as if Low Latency Monitoring was disabled or is overridden. I think you're right, I bet it will narrow down to his input channel setup and/or his plugins. Thats why I said his best bet would be to try to figure out a different way of monitoring.
Relic
02-09-2011, 04:46 PM
Ill have to check the settings but I cant see any other way of monitoring it lol.
No matter what its going to be coming out of the 003

Where is the buffer rate setting at, operations?

Also 7th Angel where do I look for input monitoring?
thedreampolice
02-09-2011, 04:58 PM
1. Choose Setups --> Playback Engine.

The Playback Engine dialog box opens.

2. Select the setting that you want from the H/W Buffer Size drop-down list.

3. Click OK to accept the setting and close the dialog box.


@Dac 128 in Pro tools, now thats funny.
dacalion
02-09-2011, 05:09 PM
Im just saying...lol. Well, when recording I keep it low around 128 or 256, but when mixing - I go back in and make it higher (so that it will know that its gonna be doing a lot of processing).

EDIT I bet thats whats happening, I bet he isn't changing it to a higher setting when he's mixing.
Relic
02-09-2011, 05:10 PM
Thanks Chris I'll try that.
lion-ucs
02-09-2011, 07:13 PM
I haven't used PT in a LONGGGGGGG time so I can't remember if it uses Direct Sound or ASIO/Core Audio.
7thangel
02-09-2011, 07:22 PM
if i remember, you're in windows, so you should be able to get your buffer down to 64 samples. record and practice at the lowest it can go and raise it after you finished recording

as for input monitoring:

under "track"

http://www.eqmag.com/uploadedImages/eqmag/articles/4_MonitorTrack.jpg

however, i don't know how they changed things in pt 9, so those that do can elaborate more on this. i've heard about the various latency issues some are experiencing and expecting to get fixed/improved in the next updates.
thedreampolice
02-09-2011, 07:24 PM
@lion-ucs it doesn't use either, it has its own engine called DAE

@7thangel You can set it at 64 but I have never seen a NON PTHD rig actually work well that low, just buffer errors and pops and clicks.
7thangel
02-09-2011, 07:30 PM
@lion-ucs it doesn't use either, it has its own engine called DAE

@7thangel You can set it at 64 but I have never seen a NON PTHD rig actually work well that low, just buffer errors and pops and clicks.

i use 64 all the time at work, no clicks, pops, errors or dropouts. we're using m-audio 2626 in xp sp3 and the computer isn't even close to being the most powerful. ymmv
lion-ucs
02-09-2011, 08:08 PM
Oh yea, thats right.

Thats one of the reasons I don't really care for PT. It's too proprietary.
thedreampolice
02-09-2011, 10:59 PM
What are the other settings? Did that change with PT9?
Relic
02-10-2011, 09:35 AM
Yeah its win7 64bit 7th..
Didnt get a chance to try it because I had to work so late last night when I got home I wasnt even thinking about this issue or music at all.
Gonna try it though, hopefully tonight!
Relic
02-27-2011, 04:35 PM
1. Choose Setups --> Playback Engine.

The Playback Engine dialog box opens.

2. Select the setting that you want from the H/W Buffer Size drop-down list.

3. Click OK to accept the setting and close the dialog box.


@Dac 128 in Pro tools, now thats funny.

1. Choose Setups --> Playback Engine.

The Playback Engine dialog box opens.

2. Delay Compensation Engine ------> Select Short.
It closes and saves the track then opens it again .. Much better.