Is Fruity Loops that hot??????

[FuriousMusic]

I havent looked at it in years but i remember it was just a bunch of set sounds and you arrange the sounds to make beats. Like i said i havent looked at in years but have they changed it and is it now like sonar or cubase. I also know that 9th wonder makes all of his beats in FL he dosent use external hardware.

[Copenhagen]

I don't use FruityLoops either, so I can't tell you as much, though they certainly have changed the program for the better.
Check www.fruityloops.com, and see all the changes.

[spin]

yeah its different now :)

[RigorMortis]

only if you are the chosen one you will be able to master it!

[classic]

only if you are the chosen one you will be able to master it!

lmao

class...

[Kevin A]

RigorMortis is right, it's like giving a pencil to a artist so he can make a master piece. Give that same pencil to anyone else and watch them go, " I can't do nothing with this." Beware of those drinkin Hater-aid.

[J Rilla]

RigorMortis is right, it's like giving a pencil to a artist so he can make a master piece. Give that same pencil to anyone else and watch them go, " I can't do nothing with this." Beware of those drinkin Hater-aid.
Hey real good analogy dawg my english teacher would be impressed but i digress......Fl is definitly a good program.....it still has its limitations,but if u use it in combination with some other programs it can definitly produce a quality professional beat

[kaivai]

i got my fruityloops from a mate that couldnt figure out how to use so i sat down and just started to work at it trynna get the best out of it, im still workin at it, but yea you do need to use sum other progs to the best out of fl, the basis of my stuff comes from fruityloops (dats da only sequencer my poor ass has got) i just get my $2 microphone and record samples and use them in there, use fl if you wanna push the limits of your creativity

[nasir jones]

استشهد ثلاثة فلسطينيين اليوم الثلاثاء اثنان بشظايا صاروخ اطلقته طائرة حربية صهيونية على تجمع للمواطنين في مخيم خانيونس الغربي والثالث طفل في التاسعة من عمره، كما أصيب طفلان آخران بجراح بليغة جراء انفجار جسم مشبوه، زرعته قوات الاحتلال الصهيوني في الحارة الشرقية في بلدة دير الغصون شمال طولكرم في الضفة الغربية. فيما واصلت على مدار اليوم قوات الاحتلال الصهيوني حصارها الشامل على

[DJ Excellence]

nasir : get off the crack ! this ain't aljazira.com here ! ;)

[Dantson]

I think it is very possible to make, from start to finish, with no outside programs or hardware (other than a microphone, turntable if needed, etc..) a GOOD track with fruityloops. I wouldn't try it, but I know it can be done.

Nasir... Dude.. that's my ass you have right there. I'd recognize my ass anywhere. I aint authorize noone to use my ass anywhere. I ain't shaving NOTHiNG anymore.

[Kevin A]

J-rilla
We are held back by our own limitations and patterns of thinking. Those of you who can only use the manual to understand the complete function of the program, offcourse your gonna feel limited, because the manual is limited. FLstudio is so vesatile that you can do things in it that the program wasn't designed to do. I would go as far as to say it is the photoshop of music programs. The downside to this is that thier are not many innovative users using the program. I've used it for seven years and developed several forms of sequencing amonst others tips and tricks to emulate other things. My suggestion is do what you feel because I won't put you up on no game about it, it's a dog eat dog world in this industry and n*ggas be fakin. Don't place your experience of limitations on the program because your failer rate is greater than your success rate, or you couldn't get just what you wanted. That's like me taking a stab at proffessional boxing, getting knocked out all the time, then come talking about boxing sucks as a sport. Not true, I just suck at boxing. The best thing to say is I couldn't do this or that in this program, but don't blame it on the software, because if your not doing stuff that's not in the manual, you haven't mastered it yet. And aside from the technical aspect, you need some talent to make it matter in the first place. And as for you kids that like to sample, I researched it and it is against the law to use any sample no matter the length without permission. That's right, not even 3 seconds. You don't even have to sell it, once you give it to someone you've commited a crime. So a thief is a thief is a thief. Don't tell me you got a musical bone in your body and your sampling, you just got a ear for music. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but it's not your sht, so basicly this post is not for those type of cats.

[sYgMa]

I would agree with Kevin A. the program is really versatile, you can do so many things with it, if you try that its ridiculous! The thing is to try... I dont really know the other programs that much, but I'm pretty sure that fruity would be one of the program that is easier to get into, because it's very user friendly (in my opinion)

[HCTarks]

lol philsiarri

[cley]

it's alot different now. I used it before I got my mac which was a little while ago. I haven't tried FL Studio, but the fact that the name changed after it was bought by another company from "Fruity Loops" to "FL Studio" is representative of the progress it made. It's being presented as a more mature program now. I'm sure it's hot, and if they made a version for Mac, I'd probably be using it instead of reason.

[Producer_GyaL]

lol nasir jones, can you tell us what you were saying ??? lol

yeah, i think fruity is the best... not that i know how every other programs work, but i feel very confortable with fruity. I think everyone should go with the program they find it more confortable to play with. I think the skills comes with good sound and good quality instruments, and how you play with it. Anyway, its sad that in the business, i never heard fruity was in use. Im glad i had that chance to meet fruity! Even if dont master it, its a good program.

[J Rilla]

Kevin A-
I was kinda surprised to come in this thread to see someone makin little sly comments that i suck beacuse i cant make a professinal track with fruity?????? umm I'm not sure if u felt that i was tryin to come at u side ways because i quoted you or i was tryin to knock Fruity or u just wanted to vent about it, but in no way am i saying anything is wrong with the program. In all honesty i really just liked ur analogy, but then i thought i should also say sumthin about tha subject of the thread. I am not here to argue about how good a program is or what program or set up is better. I am here to gain knowledge and hopefully pass on a little bit also ...me personaly i have other preferences, but if u make hot shyt with fruity go ahead i aint never knock no ones huslte... if u can make hot shyt with a nail and tin can go ahead more power to u.Now when i said it needs to be used with other programs to make a real,professional track. That is what i was told by professinal music engineers,people that get paid doin this music business. Now if u can flip it and make u shyt sound professinal with fruity once again go ahead, but argue with the staff of Full Sail College and not me........chuuch

P.S This is in no way meant to attack u homey just makin a point....... oh once again very good use of an analogy in ur post

[Producer_GyaL]

hum, Kevin a, its not nice what you've said.. not because this business about dog eating dog that you have to do it also.... everyone is learning in a different way and you never know who's going to come out in the future....

[PrOLifiK]

Yeah fruity loops is a good program I think...personally I like reason better because I am more comfortable with that program. You can make something dope off any eqpt you have once you learn its ins and outs. I know there are alot of better programs out there I just gotta have the time to learn its ins and outs...and oh yeah be able to afford it lol.

[2_nice]

if you learn to use THIRDS in fruity loops your shit can be hot.. check 9th wonder his shit don't sound fruity loops style because he uses thirds and his shit is sample based......... THIRDS !!!!! i can't dig most shit done in fruity loops becuase people never do much more (most people) then clicking blocks in the step sequencer. there is a function i think that is called swing in fruity loops....... give your 16th notes (crotchets) a thirds swing feel by moving the with the shift function 1 third of the way up the shift screen (these notes running on a ppqn of 96 sit on 40 and 80 this is the hip hop sound !!!@ check premier and pete rock and every producer) ALL ABOUT THE THIRDS BABY AND FEW PEOPLE THAT USE FRUITY LOOPS KNOW IT........ AMATUERS... i don't like fruity loops for myself BUT if someone knows how to sample properly (not just some chop and paste and pitch shit although that is good skills to learn properly) but looping properly too and USE THIRDS fruity loops can sound THE SAME as an mpc WITH THE SAME SAMPLES !!!!!!!


THIRDS PEOPLE QUANTISATION OUT BRING THAT SOULFUL SWING INTO YOUR BEAT MAKING !!!!!!

[FuriousMusic]

Good idea to change the name sound like sequencing program you get out of a cereal box. I guess it has come along way maybe i'll give a try someday.

[UnOwn]

And as for you kids that like to sample, I researched it and it is against the law to use any sample no matter the length without permission. That's right, not even 3 seconds. You don't even have to sell it, once you give it to someone you've commited a crime. So a thief is a thief is a thief. Don't tell me you got a musical bone in your body and your sampling, you just got a ear for music. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but it's not your sht, so basicly this post is not for those type of cats.

You’re a nerd. No one was talking about sampling and you just felt the need to throw a quick diss in about sampling. Why don't you go throw away all your hip-hop records that have samples on them and we'll see how many you have left. Oh sorry, I meant your Cd's since you've probably never touched a record in your life. Oooooh and its illegal...who cares? You baby. I've done all kind of shit that's illegal and sampling is the least of my worries. I don't need money hungry corporations and big brother telling me what I can and can't do. And if you are gonna come back with the "What about the artist?" argument, that is silly. Do you think that anyone is buying the CD of something I found on 78 in a moldy box in someone's back yard, if it even exists on CD. And even if they were, do you think the record company is gonna bother to look for the person that is supposed to get the royalties. Look in the news, a bunch of record companies were just sued for not paying royalties to artists "they couldn't track down," which included P.Diddy...ha, couldn't find him huh. No musical bone huh, I could see that as a weak excuse directed at people with four to sixteen bar loops, but does the same apply to people that load a sound and only play it for as long as they hold the key down on their keyboard. Where do you think they got those preset sounds in your keyboard or synth? Those are called royalty free samples, unless you got an old school analog synth, which I highly doubt. I don't know what that last comment is supposed to mean, but if you are saying that Fruity loops isn't for people that sample, you obviously don't know your program very well. FL Studio can act very much like an MPC if you use the piano roll, a midi controller and load your own samples. I think you must have some real significant insecurities if you feel such a need to bash everyone who doesn't do everything exactly like you. Just cuz I predominantly sample doesn't make me feel the need to go around dissing everyone that uses keyboards. We are all making music and that's what counts. And just in case you were wondering, I played piano for years, but I really like digging through crates because it exposes me to a lot of stuff I probably wouldn't normally listen to. Sampling takes a lot of time and hard work, not just plug in and go...so watch your tongue and learn your history.
-UnOwn

P.S.- Sorry mods for retaliating to this kids comment but it was really uncalled for in the first place.

[zawlin]

yo use fruity loops 4 to do all of my beats i started 2 years ago. i think it the best program i ever use to make beats. it easy to make beats. no one ever teach me how to use fruity loops befor. come to my page and holla at my fruity loops beats!!............. be easy on what u write to me im only 13 year old.


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/ezmusic.htm

[MikeMiz]

Fruity is a great program, but in the end its all about skill... but that's all been said before. The pencil analogy someone mentioned sums it up perfectly.

Holla!!!

www.soundclick.com/MikeMiz (http://www.soundclick.com/mikemiz)

[Sucio]

fruity is dope....i use fruity along with cool edit and goldwave.....great combo right there....i do my mixing on fruity also...the parametric EQ is a wonderful thing.......and about the sampling subject...if u drop a track.....and it sounds hot.....it sounds hot.....if u dont like sampling...dont do it.....dont bash people who do...because EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY DOES IT....dont believe me?

www.the-breaks.com <---that site shows sampled songs...and who used them.....click on the top tab on the left...soul/r&b....

[1d3nt1tY]

It depends on the person, some peeps make shit with fl, some make masterpiece material that is better than most of these 24000.00 dollar setups... it's kind of funny dontcha think?

[Kevin A]

J-rilla
My comment was not a cheap shot at you. I believe at the begining of my post I said "We are held back by our own limitations and patterns of thinking" That included myself. I didn't say where the limitations were because I don't know, but we all have them. The next sentences starts " Those of you" still not making it personal. Your name is at the top of the post because I was talking to you, not at or about you. It is generalized to cover other perspectives that I've come accross at illmusik. Basically I was trying to pass on some logic that I use for myself to keep me from having bias opinions not accurately supported due to my own limitations. I tried Reason, and I didn't like it, but you will never hear me say it sucks, or it can't do this or it can do that. If I did, that information would be misleading and the first persons who would notice it, would be the people doin tight stuff in reason, why, becasue they know better. I'm on the other end with FLstudio, I know it's not limited. So to avoid misleading someone who doesn't know anything about either, If I couldn't do something, then I would say I couldn't do it, not the program is limited because I couldn't do. In the forever ending debate about these softwares, you hear statements like that all the time, I was was addressing it in that manner. The same as with the sampling thing that the UNOWN is talking about.

UNOWN, being that you've only been here for about 2 months, its obvious you haven't seen the countless threads on this very same issues, not to mention my perspective on the few threads that I've participated in on this issue of sampling. So for the record, I have been a advocate for sampling in untraditional ways, cutting notes, and hits, and using them to compose original melodies. It's easy to jump in and think that way, but you have to follow the threads to get the complete perspective. Ask a question if you must, but don't assume. When I say sampling, or talk about someone who is sampling I'm thinking of a person that is taking 4 plus bars out of a song, then start talking about about I make beats, that's my flavor, I made this. I've come across alot of people that think that because they sampled 4 bars of someone elses composition and put a beat behind it, that it's theirs. I disagree with that. I also mention it because of all the posibilities that Flstudio has with making music that does not envolve using loops. It was also informative information to myself because I sample hits and notes from music. And to find out that not one tit was legal was a shock to me as well. As for records, I have 28 crates of them. In these threads it's been definded what a sample is, and how many ways people sample. My gripe is only with people who don't rely on any skill, and will steal bars from another song and call it their own. Oh, and the premade drum loop users too. I've heard some people say as long as it sounds tight it's alright. I've said this before, yes sound is sound, but music isn't always what seems to be, like judging a book by it's cover. Unfortunately the industry we are in is surface value, so you're gonna get alot of that anyway. My point for people who do sample like that is to not keep them set in their ways, and unleash their potentual for creating new music, because that's music to my ears and everyone elses. If there is still a misunderstanding, I can live wit that.

[UnOwn]

Well maybe I was a little harsh but you should probably tone down the generalizations a little bit. Generalizations are usually a pretty close-minded way of looking at things. Your comment just sounds like a straight diss to anyone that samples, but then you tell me that you sample too. You should make sure to be clear with everything you say because everyone is not gonna go research all your posts because you expect them to know what you mean or something. I may have only been posting for two months, but you can see that I am pretty clear, concise, and supportive of every argument I make. I have been lurking this board for a pretty long time now though, and only recently registered. So, I have seen a lot of the arguments that go on and most of the time I find them unnecessary. That is why I took particular offense to your comment because it was uncalled for. The topic of the thread and every person before you did not mention a single thing about sampling and you just found it necessary to throw your opinion on that matter in there. Not only did you throw it in there but you felt the need to approach the matter in a rather disrespectful manner. Personally I mostly sample real small parts and not loops, but I have no problem with people that do. And you can have a problem with it if you want, you are entitled to you opinion, but are you so insecure in that matter that you need to disrespect others that aren't doing things exactly like you? People who sample are like music archeologists in my opinion and the ones who do it best dig up the really forgotten gems. Do you think that most of the people listening to these songs would have ever listened to the original samples in the first place? I doubt it. I think digging samples teaches people to be more cultured in their musical tastes, no matter how much of the sample is used. The key is using something really obscure, but that is just the way I feel. Maybe it will spark the curiosity of someone out there to go pick up their first Jazz, Funk, Rock, Opera, Classical or whatever album. I know that sampling has really helped me listen to a lot of stuff that I probably never would have otherwise. So, our opinions differ and I don't have a problem with that, what I mainly had a problem with was your approach to the matter. I think you should take a serious look at handling issues more diplomatically in the first place, rather than waiting till someone takes offense to your approach. So, I got no problem, just think a little closer about the way your words sound before you go ripping on people.
Thanks,
UnOwn

[Kevin A]

Gravy, Human, only the beats are 100%

[J Rilla]

My fault...I know of a couple of folk that say "we" when they actually just mean "you" so sometimes a get a little defensive.... but no harm no foul..hopefully u feel the same way..chuuch

[ola]

Please People No More Fruity Loops Bashing Before I Have To Beat Battle Someone And Show Them What F Loops Is All About I'll Even Battle A Hardware Cat If Have To.....leave Fl Alone..............peace.

[Kevin A]

My fault...I know of a couple of folk that say "we" when they actually just mean "you" so sometimes a get a little defensive.... but no harm no foul..hopefully u feel the same way..chuuch

It's all gravy, I've could have said things clearer myself like unown mentioned. Peace

[GEtback-Ent]

I havent looked at it in years but i remember it was just a bunch of set sounds and you arrange the sounds to make beats. Like i said i havent looked at in years but have they changed it and is it now like sonar or cubase. I also know that 9th wonder makes all of his beats in FL he dosent use external hardware.
works fine with me make sure you have 24bit,with any music its not the machine but the creative of the artist.

[GEtback-Ent]

works fine with me

[Tutu aka Snake]

I think 9th Wonder uses plugins two, or am I wrong?

anywayz, FL Studio Producer Edition is much more different then the older versions called Fruity Loops. It has grown up and can compete with the 'big boys' now. It's the best way to start if you have no experience in producing, cause it has an easy interface and is very easy to learn. Unlike programs like Sonar 3, Reason, Cubase or whatever. These programs are like chinese if you don't know where to start! Even with the tutorials wich most of the time use terms you probarly never heard about as a beginning producer it's hard.

[open mind]

Is Fruity Loops that hot??????

YES! :D

[NobleWordz]

No offence. But what's the point of bumping a thread without contributing anything new to it?

~NW~

[Sqito]

The same as bumping it pointing out it being pointless bumping it without contributing anything new to it. :p :D

[RigorMortis]

fruity is a stone cold bitch, as cold as ice!

[Sqito]

yeah. it's cool & hot at the same time. What do ya want more?

[open mind]

The same as bumping it pointing out it being pointless bumping it without contributing anything new to it. :p :D

LOL...

[MarvinGrey]

Much respect to everyone's opinions and believe me I have battled with the same question for a long time. I have bounced from program to program and hardware unit to hardware unit. And it all comes down to you, and what you can do. I used to think that a keyboard was going to greatly improve my music making skillz, and a whole bunch of money later I realized that wasn't the case. But I dont blame cats for trying new things, I mean the internet throws them in your face constantly. Whether roland or korg has a new keyboard or there is a new mpc, or a supposedly great do it all software. I think some cats dont take time with the software or hardware they got, and think that since something new is out, that it is gonna be better than what they have. I personally had to take a step back, and work with one piece of software, which is FL Studio, and just focus my attention on learning everything I can about that software. Once I did that I improved greatly. Yes fruity loops is a beast, there is no question about it. I Really dont even know why its still being questioned. I dont see why you need other programs with it, the only thing I use is Audtion to chop samples, and the rest is all fruity.

[RigorMortis]

word fruity is a beast, it eats my heart out and shits out the love in my music.

the best tribute of fruity is that you dont have to wait 5 years for a new update, they are rapidly improving themselves, so in the long run stickin with fruity is best. those ahead now will be dead before they even make the finish.

[Dysphuncktional]

fruityloops eats allayall little punks for breakfast every morning...with a bag of chips on the side

[deanero]

I am a heavy user of Fruity Loops and I feel that producers are often discredited when they use it primarily because people say it limits creativity. To be quite honest it takes a creative person to make something sound hot on FL. It may be easy to learn but it's not easy to master. There are no limitations if you know it inside and out. I have used the Roland MV 8000 and it's nice to channel in Real Time, but my niche is composing music by writing it. You can also do a lot of hot shit your fingers can't handle if you know how to read music and tansfer that knowledge to FL.

[Da IllFellaz]

2 of Mary J Blige's tracks off her last album where made in Fruity Loops

fruity loops is a very powerful program in the right hands

n to Kevin A.

in my opinion it does take skill to chop a sample and rearrange it. even looping a sample takes a little bit of skill. not everyone can do it.

however, not everyone can make a record. thats the difference between a beat maker and a producer.

[StressWon]

2 of Mary J Blige's tracks off her last album where made in Fruity Loops

fruity loops is a very powerful program in the right hands

n to Kevin A.

in my opinion it does take skill to chop a sample and rearrange it. even looping a sample takes a little bit of skill. not everyone can do it.

however, not everyone can make a record. thats the difference between a beat maker and a producer.


word up Nomics,,,well said kid. FL 4 life son,,FOR LIFE!!!!

lol,,okay, I'm done