Production Equipment

[CoNz]

I know that this might be a dumbass question but i am going to ask it anyways. I need to know what kind of producing equipment i need to get started. This is the stuff i got

Drum Machine -

Keyboard -

Mixer -

Can someone inform me in the other stuff it would help me out alot. Thx in advance

[Copenhagen]

A pc would be a good start...but I'm guessing you just left that out. Otherwise, get one...plug all you gear to the pc...and that's it...don't start of with something expensive unless you got money to waste...

I know people are probably going to tell you differently, but that's my suggestion. Use Cubase or something similar to lay down the tracks for your drummachine and keyboard...

Ask Vitaman...he know all kinds of shit. Or Fade or...anybody else in here...listen to each one and pull out the bits you like and that suits you.

[Fade]

Well what kind of mixer, drum machine, and keyboard do you have?

I agree with Copen, hook it all up to your PC and get a program like Cubase, Cakewalk, Pro Tools, Logic, whatever. Don't drop money on expensive stuff until you've gotten your feet wet.

[nasir jones]

mpc 2000
synthe
pc

[vitaminman]

Hey,

You've got everything you need to get started.

I'll add to the list of Copenhagen and Fade, get a PC.

Why?

1. You can record entire songs and burn them to cd.
2. You can record individual tracks, edit them, mic them, then burn them to cd.
3. You can download porn and watch it while you're burning cd's.

What kind of drum machine, mixer and keyboard do you have?

Take care,

Nick

[CoNz]

Thx for all the help guys. I got a PC and i got Cubase. i would do the PC programs for example fruity loops but i am alot better with hands on stuff. vitaminman, number 3 is the best tip i be sure to do that. I post later about the names of my Equipment there at my brother house right now.

[Mcrob]

as long as you don't have fruity loops you will be cool

holla back

[BeatOff]

Originally posted by Mcrob
as long as you don't have fruity loops you will be cool

holla back
Dumbest shit ever posted. Its not what you use its how you use it. Lets here your tracks I bet you cant fuck with this cat who uses fruity loops for all his beats.

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/93/j_c.html

[Fade]

Fruity Loops has a gay name, but the program itself is very useful.

[BOSS AUTHORITY]

Originally posted by BeatOff
Dumbest shit ever posted. Its not what you use its how you use it. Lets here your tracks I bet you cant fuck with this cat who uses fruity loops for all his beats.

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/93/j_c.html


Looks like you pissed off a fruit-cake.
Sucka!

[BeatOff]

Originally posted by BOSS AUTHORITY
Looks like you pissed off a fruit-cake.
Sucka!

Sorry i'm not pissed and i dont use fruity loops I just hate talentless bitchmade nerds like you and your alter ego ya fuckin scum.

[BOSS AUTHORITY]

You're still a sucka!!!

:fuckyou:

[Fade]

BeatOff, take it easy man. Jeez.

[JAYBANGAH]

Definitely a PC or MAC if you computer oriented.........


If not get a MPC2000XL and a couple of sound modules (Mo Phat, Proteus 2000) and sample CD's...........


And you are on your way............

[Copenhagen]

Sure BeatOff should have been the adult when addressing these NewBies...but Mcrob obviously don't know that its the man behind the program that's capable of making fly beats and not the program itself. I know peeps who've got record deals with FruityLoops and also a guy with an awsome studio who makes wack shit...and eventhough I'm personally not a fan of Fruity, I recognize that peeps with skillz can bring heat with that program.
And Boss Aut., why interfer and provoke? It don't help ease the tension and make this board the serious, helpful board that many of us like about it...

[BeatOff]

I'm going to be the man about the situation and appoligize. I dont want this board to get out of hand like most sites on the net with pointless disses and arguments. Good points Copenhagen.

[Fade]

Thanks. I don't wanna seem like I'm coming down hard on someone for comments that get out of hand, but like you said, I don't want this board to be like other places I've been to.

Hey, maybe I can create an un-moderated section! LOL, that way anyone can diss anyone.

[Helios]

Man I got a triton, a yamaha cs1x and an ol' mc 303,
but I wont do anything with selfclaimed producers usin ONLY fruity loops...
Sure itz a damn start, for the beginning... but you can't fuck me tellin me that you gon be a platinum hip-hop producer usin fruity loops, I gon shit you in da face. It's a damn dismiss for those who buy real gear to be a hot producer.

Is dj paul or juicy j, dre or timbaland usin fruity loops? nah but that faggot ( age 14 ) next door to you bought fruity loops to be a producer. Remember that you're disrespecting those people who want to real professional producers. WORD

[Copenhagen]

Thanks Helios for ruining what could have gone back to being a serious topic. I find you ignorant and without timing.

I know a producer who has won the prestigeous Alpha Beat Battle and is now attached to an underground hip-hop label, only using FruityLoops. Now sure, he hasn't gone platinum, yet, but he's further than you and your selfaclaimed pro-gear. I dare to say that many people in here who only uses FruityLoops, or any other pc music program for that matter, can probably take you out. I haven't heard anything from you or your selfaclaimed pro-gear so far...

Now, I'm not a fan of FruityLoops myself, but not because I found it to limit me. but because I found something that suited me better.

If you invest in a lot of real decent soundkits and know how to tweak the hell out of the kits in your pc based sequencer, then you can sure go far if you just make sure its mixed for you in pro setup. You can also buy gear for thousands of dollars and make wack ass beats (and rant about it on producer websites because your shit stink).

Does gear make YOU better. No, YOU make YOURSELF better. That was the point!

Also, its the professional mixing and engineering that make many platinum tracks what they are...not the setup that made them.

One last thing, tell me ONE good reason why they are disrespecting "real professional producers" (as you so call them). WORD!

[Fade]

Helios, you're right - there aren't any professional producers out there using ONLY Fruity Loops, but that doesn't mean that it can't be used to make dope beats.

I'll tell you this - right now I don't have my powerhouse PC, I'm using someone else's (P3, 128RAM, 6Gig HD, etc), and the soundcard is shit. I don't have any of my equipment hooked up to it, so all I'm able to use at this time is purely software and I'm STILL making good tracks.

Just because hardware seems like the way to go, doesn't mean that everyone has to use it! Remember, the times are changing, soon more and more experienced producers will be using software. But before I go off topic, FL is a good program and just like your dick inside a woman, it's all about how you use it.

[Cyanide]

All I have money for is Fruityloops and it works good for me I think of a beat and i can still make it with fruityloops so it's straight for me the beats aren't the hard part its having talent to rock the beats. But don't get me wrong I will be investing in hardware eventually but I could still pimp a track using Fruityloops.

[BeatOff]

Originally posted by Helios
Man I got a triton, a yamaha cs1x and an ol' mc 303,
but I wont do anything with selfclaimed producers usin ONLY fruity loops...
Sure itz a damn start, for the beginning... but you can't fuck me tellin me that you gon be a platinum hip-hop producer usin fruity loops, I gon shit you in da face. It's a damn dismiss for those who buy real gear to be a hot producer.

Is dj paul or juicy j, dre or timbaland usin fruity loops? nah but that faggot ( age 14 ) next door to you bought fruity loops to be a producer. Remember that you're disrespecting those people who want to real professional producers. WORD

Who cares what gear you have I have a MPC2000XL, AkaiS3000, Emu Mo phatt, midi controller and Triton. And? So what i wont sit here and diss cats because of the equiptment they use. Guess what i'm switching to Reason Wooooo. The problem is people think the gear is what makes a dope producer. You know how many wack people out there have 100,000 Dollar hardware labs? a GRIP. Yall swear if you buy a MPC its gonna make you Primo lol.
If beat making software was around when primo, pete rock, timbaland etc all them started you think they wouldnt use it? Yeah mothafuckin right. Hardware is becomming obsolete every major studio uses some form of software, pro tools, cool edit something. Yup Kanye West Chops samples in cool edit. He sucks he uses the computer. Oh yeah tell me one thing that a hardware sampler does that fruity loops cant? I'm dying to know.

[Some Guy]

Originally posted by Helios
Man I got a triton, a yamaha cs1x and an ol' mc 303,


LOL you use a fuckin MC303?? OMG what do you think this is the early 90's? Its 2003 man. If you're still using that piece of garbage for your drums you shouldnt be talkin shit dood. Even free software sounds better and has more features than a MC303. Yamaha CS1x???! Dont make me laugh please. Tritons are decent. Not too original tho.

I thought with all the shit you were talking about FL you'd have atleast some decent stuff. You think you're going pro with that? Yeah its hardware but you're gonna need a room full of hardware to go "pro" slugger. Have fun collecting all that old school gear. You should go all the way and mix down to a 4 track. Trade in your car for a horse and carriage while you're at it too. And your house for a mud hut. :D

[BOSS AUTHORITY]

Hardware is here to stay and so is software. They are both dope. It's just dope making music with whatever you got. It just sucks that whack kids are making shit with programs they downloaded and call themselves producers. There are mad kids on my block who do that, so I'm savin up for an MPC 60 to set me apart you know? It seems like if you say you make hip hop on software, you get no respect cuz lots of the shit out there is whack.

I've been making beats with sofware since I was 14 (I started with Impulse Tracker for DOS) but now I'm getting paid for beats and investing in hardware. I found making beats on a PC was getting boring. An MPC is an instrument. I'm also a DJ and using a PC for shows is kinda lame that's why you need some hardware. Also, if you're serious about makin beats, you should definitely know your way around an MPC.

-BOSS AUTHORITY

[HaZwaiOh]

this thread is getting ridiculous. as it´s already been said: the result is what counts.

Do your profs at school grade your assignments based on the software you used? "Ah, that looks like MS Word - he´s gotta be good since its expensive. Oh, let me see what we got here ... Ah damn, this dude used a free software program - it is obvious his paper sucks."

My neighbour has done video editing for many years - guess what? He´s using a computer now and is not using those videocutting consoles he used 10 years ago. I guess he most suck bad time since you can get software like that on the web.
And another friend of mine is doing graphics in Photoshop. What a coward - Picasso didn´t use computers and made dope stuff.

I see people in this forum who act like they´re working for akai, emu or whatever. Is there some new MPC religion I don´t know of?

When you hear a beat, dou you first do some research on the equipment the producer uses before you judge? If I feel that beat I feel it. No matter if it was done on a mpc, sp1200, asr10, fruityloops, cubase, logic, sonar or whatever.

I consider myself a musician and for me it counts what the music is like. But some seem to be technicians. Why do people spend so much time listing all the components their rack holds instead of posting beats, asking producing related questions, giving feedback, asking questions concerning the stuff they use (i don´t actually care what you use) etc. ?

People seem to buy expensive hardware in order to prove how serious they are.
@BOSS AUTHORITY: You think buying an MPC60 will make you sound different from the other kids who got fruity? Haha, i think you could save that money for something else.
Once again: It´s YOU who influences the sound!
I can see why people are pissed off by people who read a music magazine and download all the software mentioned in there without knowing what it can do. I´m talking ´bout people who use 10 different synthesizers, effects, samplers etc. just because they got more presets to choose from. But why would you want to let those people bother you? Good stuff will always stay and bad stuff won´t. It takes hard work and it´s YOU who has to do that job. Soft- or hardware can only help you, but it´s still you doing the music. Think about it and stop categorizing producers and productions by the stuff used for it.
peace!

[Scholar]

thats a good post @Haz some damn good points. there are many who listen to many on the things they should have. a guy told me yesterday that if i didnt get a motif then i wouldnt make good shit but this is the same cat that wanted me to sell him six beats.lol. people. i like the mpc series but for the money of a 4000 i can build a comp that do more and wit my creativity i can do so much more. at first i thought that a comp was cheating,but look in all of your gear its all comp shit what isnt these days what will make us stand out from the rest is "drum roll please" US no one else if you want to be hot work at it. simple point anyone seen stomp the broadway show them cats make beats on trashcans empty buckets tap shoes. lets fuck the equipment and grab the creative side.

ONE!

[Lace]

Let me straight break it down 4 you
MPC 4000
ASR-10 kEYBOARD
A PC WITH PRO TOOLS

[Lace]

Oh!!!!!! AND A HEINEKEN, SOME DRO AND A FINE ASS HO

[Copenhagen]

Hey...if you can't spot Waldo...at least tell me that you can spot the person who didn't read the fine points made by f.x. HaZ... :headbang:

Somebody...Anybody...close this thread...

[BeatOff]

Lace What are you saying? Is that what you have?

[Fade]

Yeah, it was a good thread, but all points have been made by now. Closed.