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Rob-Les
05-02-2003, 03:32 PM
Just curious on how different producers initially start a beat. Do you drop your bassline first or do you start with the drum loop and build from there. Just another topic to discuss.

Rob-Les

Streetwize
05-02-2003, 03:38 PM
melody or sample

Ques
05-02-2003, 03:45 PM
Normal with a sample or phat drum kit the plays the melody

Ghetto Quality
05-02-2003, 04:11 PM
It all depends on the mood, sometimes the melody will dictate the beat or other times it could be the drums

Copenhagen
05-02-2003, 05:54 PM
I start of with the melody/theme/sample first, then drums that hopefully fits the melody/theme/sample...then bass, if its just bottom...will add bass before the drums if I want a melody that goes with the main melody/theme/sample...

It seems easier to start with the theme, instead of laying down the drums and then having to seek the theme. I find it easier because when you have the theme, then when going through your drums...you can automatically hear which drum fits...

vitaminman
05-02-2003, 06:18 PM
Hey,

I start with a few chords or melody which I like, record them into Cubase, then start adding/removing stuff along the way. Eventually I try to remove the sounds of the initial chords and replace them with more exciting sounds, or try to not make the chords sound so 'obvious'.

As for the percussion, I usually just sequence something dumb at the beginning to have something to work with, eventually I replace that with a better programmed beat or a sample(s).

Basslines? Usually I do that in tandem with the melody.

The big thing to remember is that there isn't a right or wrong way to do this, the difficult thing is finding a method which works with your style.

Take care,

Nick

xkwest
05-02-2003, 09:10 PM
melody and sample with small adjustments as i go....
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i always start with the intro...
then i create the verse part along with change ups... then i work on the hook....//then if i want the 2nd or third verse part different from the 1st... then i adjust accordingly.... then i make the outro...
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i always have an intro and an outro.... shit just seems incomplete without them...

milLion
05-03-2003, 12:59 AM
generally -- some sort of melody or sample is a good start for me -- that way i build the remainder around it -- other times -- i may lace a drum track and it's enough inspiration to build the remainder -- then at times -- i may have a bassline going through my head that i get to lay down -- then guess what?? -- the remainder comes of course -- all of this is usually dependent upon my mood at the time too -- it is never consistent -- and by that guideline you never know what sparks can be created!!!

fame_keyz
05-03-2003, 11:12 PM
me i just change it up alot to keep the music point of view fresh. Sometimes ill start with drums and then some times i ll rock the melody first or now a days ill just try and make a whole beat with out drums. Just for the fact if you can make a good beat with out drums on it (a keyboard beat or even samples but i dont sample much so i cant say) you got got some good music cause you know a beat is hot when you can mute the drums and people still can rock to the beat. plus that just makes you stronger over all. I feel sometimes just droping the drums first or even the melody first and so on make my beats go in a one direction and i dont want to keep it just going one way but all so i just which up a lot.

Rob-Les
05-04-2003, 01:37 AM
Aight aight! I feel ya. I particularly feel like 'milLion' and 'fame_keyz'. I can't put it any better than that. Most of the time I start with the drums and then build around that. Mood is a big key cause it will be reflected on whatever comes out. One!

DJ Combz
05-04-2003, 07:38 AM
I too lay down the program the drum track first then go from there to adding the rest in no real order, just do it but there are those time when I am messin around on my keyboard and I make a tight melody/bass etc.... then I will build around it

fame_keyz
05-04-2003, 11:48 AM
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Rob-Les
05-04-2003, 02:25 PM
Joe don't really get respect over here. Maybe cause he's not reppin jersey right or whatever.

MoBlax
05-05-2003, 12:32 AM
I usuall start with Drum kick and snare then some synth on piano roll


Holla at ya boy

DJ Excellence
05-05-2003, 12:18 PM
I either start my beats with the main sample or with a simple Kick/Snare pattern.... but never with the bass ....it has to come gradually ..... but hey that's just my way ...

Prosper
05-07-2003, 11:01 PM
whenever i sample....generally I lay it down or whatever and then I add the drums....if Im fuckin wit a keyboard I start of wit my drum loop first then I add the bass then the melody last...1

dj_enoch_one
05-08-2003, 01:23 PM
it depends if im working with samples or keyboards.if im working with samples i usually sample first then edit and time stretch if needed.then i work around that.ill either add more samples or more ambient sounds such ass pads or strings.then i do the drums and compliment the beat with the bass.if i play my own melody i usually just lace down my snares at every 2 count to get a feel for the bpm and such.then i play the melody and finish the drums.i usually do the bass last in order to compliment the beat and not swamp it with so much low end.

HaZwaiOh
05-09-2003, 05:34 AM
i start with the main melody. sometimes I sample and sometimes I come up with an own idea. then I do the drums and then I add strings, pads and other melodies on top of it. finally i add a bassline. then i split up the track into different patterns (bassline, drums, main melody etc.) and start arranging stuff.
then i wonŽt listen to that beat for about 5 days and then iŽll give it a second glance and try to improve and expand it, add breaks etc.

Rob-Les
05-09-2003, 10:09 AM
I feel yoy HazwaiOh. Sometimes you have to walk away from the beat for a few and come back to it. That works for me really good.

Thelonius
05-11-2003, 01:13 AM
Depends, sometimes keys, sometimes drums, sometimes a dope sample. More or less, drums tend to get changed before I'm happy with it.

inrctyhoodmusic
05-12-2003, 10:00 AM
I start with the hat drum and snare after that I take that hat out and start with melody bassline or whatever but one thing I noticed that it always ends up on a totally different vibe than it started it's no wrong or right way to start a beat just what you like

NBeC
05-13-2003, 02:28 AM
If i have dope sample/melody, then from dat but usually from drums

sent_inc
05-19-2003, 12:58 AM
I start with the sample

Copenhagen
05-19-2003, 09:21 AM
It was a good question but everything has really been said now. There's only so many ways to start a beat. Thread closed.