What Improves a Beatmaker ?

ArvinArmani

Obash Composer.
Battle Points: 63
Sup y'all , i got two questions . For a long time , i've been thinking Every profession has a practice , i mean for improving yourself as a youth footballer you exercise or for improving yourself , as a pianist you practice playing more .
I know experience is important , but what is a practice for beatmakers ?
As a life plan , Im Personally gonna learn playin piano and further instruments by myself , besides that i wanna study to in Oil category because Oil degree doesnt take a lot of time and it makes you rich , specially in iran , but nobody has a degree in it due to difficulty and peoples lack of knowledge about university degrees .
After i got my degree , im gonna work here for a while , until i save enough money for me and my family , then im gonna go to a europian or american country to study music , when i got my degree there im gonna start making music in a more serious level , like making pop , funk , jazz and ... , Then im gonna try to make some rap beatz , cuz it will kinda be like giving an exam of 7th grade books when you are studying in a university . After all of that , when i got all that i wanted , i will come back to Iran and start making music in it .

I guess its a good plan , because it will make me reach all of my dreams like being a rap producer , being a musician , getting rich and ... and it keeps all of my loves happy , my family will live a good life , i will help my country , my people will be proud of me and The ILLiens will be happier .
Is this a good plan ?
Sorry for bad language , thanks for reading .
 

OGBama

ILLIEN
@ArvinArmani composition and theory will help more than hinder a producer and depending on time constraints knowing at least no more than 1 instrument can help as other instrumentalists can (and should be) outsourced. Unless I'm wrong there is no real money in producing Hip Hop as this is not the super producer era of the late 90s to early 00s.
 

Fade

Beat Scientist
Administrator
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 1
The best way is to just make beats, that's it. It's like as if you buy new hardware and software and sit there and read the whole manual. That's great but then it's time to actually use it, and experience is way better than theory.

Once you're making beats regularly, you'll be able to master your equipment and that's when you can try different things. Think of other ways you can do something to your drums or a different way to create a breakdown, etc.
 

DEEZ BEATZ

THE GOLD STANDARD...
Moderator
Battle Points: 741
@ArvinArmani , As Fade Stated...is by making beats daily. and try different genres..like Jazz cause to me that is the biggest influence in hip hop music, pop, edm bass& drum, R&B...i'm currently with a young lady who has that Miley Cyrus style. she is into pop & country but she wants some good beats behind her lyrics....you have to take on all projects. don't just be a hip hop producer...be a music producer PERIOD.
 

ArvinArmani

Obash Composer.
Battle Points: 63
i got a problem , the thing is the formula of Progression cant be This , i mean just sit and play with a daw everyday and your skills will develop ? my problem is progress and practicing anything has an experimented formula in the new world , i got a good example for that ( true story ) : you know Brazil and Germany national football ( soccer ) teams right ? on 2014 World Cup these to teams had a match .

on one side Brazil had a country with football in the culture , for a Long amount of time most of the Brazilian population was financially poor , and most people played football A lot , football is kinda in their veins and they got expert in it by playing in the streets everyday since they were little just like their father and grandfather did .

on the other side Germany was a team with a system , in this team each player had a determined task , these players were gathered when they were 12 or 13 , learned and practiced each aspect of football in German academies and got used to the code of German football , practiced on a planned schedule and reached were Brazil reached .

the match ended by this score : Germany 7 - 1 Brazil . you may not know What a disaster that game was , but you are sure losing a game with 7 - 1 score Is Not a Good score At All ( losing presidential debate with 0 votes , or for American dudes , losing 7 - 1 is Really worse than what happened to Broncos on 2014 super bowl with Sea hawks ) .

so my point is Brazil kinda did the thing that you said and the systematic team won the match against them , what is that systematic practice in beatmaking ? this is why i don't like the traditional way that everybody introduces , The chance of being successful with a systematic way is Way more than the Traditional way , because a systematic way has an exacts formula that if Anybody do it in the right way , by a lot of chance he will be successful

thanks .
 

ILL-GREEN

Monster One
What improves a beatmaker is honest and tough criticism. I used to get beat up mentally when I first started. Dudes would vomit and blame my beats it was bad. But I listened to what made them bad through their insults. Like "I hate that fking horn, why it gotta be loud!!" So that lead me to mixing and EQing. It just made me more inspired to come back with something dope to overwhelm them.

I grew up in the 80s and 90s in Brooklyn, and Hip Hop was taken very serious at the time so that helped my inspiration too. Inspiration also makes a better beatmaker. Aint nothing like music that relates to the people. So go out and get involved and inspired by your enviroment and weave in your experiences within your music.
 

ArvinArmani

Obash Composer.
Battle Points: 63
What improves a beatmaker is honest and tough criticism. I used to get beat up mentally when I first started. Dudes would vomit and blame my beats it was bad. But I listened to what made them bad through their insults. Like "I hate that fking horn, why it gotta be loud!!" So that lead me to mixing and EQing. It just made me more inspired to come back with something dope to overwhelm them.

I grew up in the 80s and 90s in Brooklyn, and Hip Hop was taken very serious at the time so that helped my inspiration too. Inspiration also makes a better beatmaker. Aint nothing like music that relates to the people. So go out and get involved and inspired by your enviroment and weave in your experiences within your music.
the god gave me 1 gift , and its my brother , he grew up in the streets , passed most of his time with listening to music , he knows what a good music is , knows all history of Farsi Rap and he is critical ( right word ? ) as hell , i mean he told me i suck since day 1 , he told me what the problem is on each level , and he was always right , actually about 5 months after i started producing , he started making beats too , i make beats everyday , but he makes beats about 10 or 12 times a year , and his beats are Dope as hell , his beats style is more like Scott Storch

he started rapping and this year he is gonna release his first album as a Duo with Amir Salatin , i already made the base of 3 beats outta 12 beats and they're about to be completed , he has a friend who works in Markaz Records ( the biggest rap music studio in the whole Iran , biggest Farsi rappers record there ) so we got free studio , he has another friend who is a cameraman so we got free music videos , and he got Another friend who's a mix/master , and Another friend who is a famous Farsi rapper & he may be in the album to promote it . whether i consider music or not , i seriously would have Nothing without my brother .
 

ILL-GREEN

Monster One
Haha! Same here. My brother was a DJ and would invite the local emcees around the way to our house where they would make mixtapes. Me being the little brother, they would never let me hang during sessions. So, everytime they came over, I would try to prove myself that I can rap and make beats to join the crowd. But everytime, they called it wack and would spend most of the day cracking jokes on me and my "fluffy" Hip Hop. I hated it and wouldn't leave without a fist fight.

One day, my bro and the crew got tired of me "ruining" their precious record time, so they actually made a whole tape dedicated to dissing me. To them it was a joke, but I took it personal. It was just ridiculous to me, that out of all things, they decided to make a tape to embarrass me. It was heard all around the districts. People knew me because of my brother, they laughed everytime they saw me.

That night, I made a mini tape of only 4 tracks and I written like I never written before, lyrics that I still recite to this day and remain timeless, destroying my brother and his friends. When they heard my tape, it blew them away. So much, that a couple of the emcees of my brother's squad, quit rhyming, saying "if he's writing sh!t like this, then I aint no good" the others wanted me to be down, but I wanted to be alone after that. I had opened a door that can never be shut and I wanted to be a supreme rhyme sayer.

After that, I began questing the 5 boroughs searching for ciphers and intruding in with my raps to build my status. I used to love doing that, because I used to leave mouths open. They be like "who was that?! He breathes flames!" And I was all by myself with just a 40oz in my hand. A lyrical nomad battling on the streets, subways and parks.
 

TjombaBeats

Mister Miyagi Beats
Battle Points: 15
Hmmm.. I would advise you to keep all projects from when you started untill now. I have beats from when i started thats about 13 years back. I first would just start a project mess around making a drum rythm not fade the drum samples. Try to make some cool sounds with piano's and stuff.

Eventually i would bounce a track you know and untill now i still have those tracks maybe not all the projects but just that bounce. I would compare it to the beats i make now and boi there is a difference.

See at first i would not use Automation on plug ins or i would not use the compressor wisely or i would use a reverb too much. See for yourself it's like you don't get better at making beats you don't hear your progression. But others most likely will notice it right away. It's when you hear a older track that you made and compare it to the latest track you made you will really notice a huge difference.

For me back in the days my tracks would clip. Drum samples would have pops on the end of the sample. Compressors would pretty much suck out the energy of kicks instead of giving energy. Reverb's where way off too wet or not noticeable at all. My tracks would not have heavy mixing into it and let says mastering did not know it existed. right now all those things like automation i use remove the pops let the kick samples fade out. use the compressor where it does justice not overdo the reverb but just use enough. I would use different bpms instead of standard 120. sometimes 90 sometimes 95 sometimes 80.

Just when you begin as producer or you want to create music make something and make sure you keep that part you first recorded and start comparing it with the recent. And also every sound pretty much needs different parameters of plug-ins or even different plug-ins. So you can't really say for each beat it's the same lay out of plug ins and parameters that you need to adjust.

Peace.
 

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