Fight #338: BAS Beats vs. K-waz
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While yours didn’t “scream” Dre - I could easily hear Xzibit on it. Maybe even fit on the Man vs Machine record.
DJ Excellence
ILLIEN
Congrats @2GooD Productions . You had the best beat IMO.
I can hear Ice Cube/Da Lench Mob on that tbh. Drums were correct, loved the cinematic intro, the louder synth doesn't really give me classic cliche Dre vibes, I think the more west coast synth could have been a little louder and more prominent to as Iron put "cheese it". I went full camembert cheese with my attempt.
Always pictured you as an aged Stilton guy.
A little bit moldy? Lmfao. I prefer cheddar.
Earsblower
Listen closely... Closer...
Honestly I think you're too ahead of your time with this one. This'll be more like Chronic 2040 vibes. Looking forward to it.
You're right but I changed the mixed of this beat on purpose for a very great reason. There is a legend on this beat already but what is a classic Dre? (Wreckin Cru/ Ruthless or DeathRow) I thought we was making a Dr Dre beat period.
I mean cliche, west coast synth. Chronic 2001. I say that for the instantly recognisable dre sound to as many people as possible..ie the people voting. The fact you have a legend on it is dope as fuck. I'm jealous as fuck.
Get that Balderson 5 year old in ya!
I agree with what @Earsblower said, I think he nailed it. I came with cliche and you came with the future.
Thanks so much! You can totally use it. I actually took inspiration from some of your beats when I made this one.
V.J. Retro
The silent beat assassin
It's ok @K-waz Dre ain't much my style either.
Edit: How many different ways can I say "Trademark sound"
@2GooD Productions
You got all the major hallmarks in there and made a sick beat. You got the worm synth/sine whistle lead down perfectly. If someone asked for the platonic ideal of a Dre beat - this would be it.
@hiziezer
Super smooth beat! Intro may be bit too long for the 2 minute time limit. I really liked the drums on this. The plucks that come in around the 0:40 mark are really cool. My main critique is the energy. There's a few elements in the mix that are distant and spacey coupled with a more laid back vibe, I feel like it lets the energy down. Otherwise, super cool beat!
@Iron Keys
Really liked the bass line on this. Again, you got all the hallmarks in there (piano, strings, funky bass, synth lead). I do like the "I need a doctor" vocals and how you capture this late 2000/2010s era. Mix is great as usual!
@Armani
Like the others, you got the hallmarks. Mix is great, and great groove with this one. I do like how some of that Scott Storch - eastern music - influence kinda pokes in. The only thing about this beat I didn't like was the melody that comes in at 0:27 - instrumentation and everything is cool, just didn't care for the melody.
@Mike Free Music
This was on the shortlist for my vote. I think where the others got you was a bit more complexity and mix. You have a bunch of cool elements in here, but they're tucked away in the mix a bit, that could've really contributed to a bigger more robust sound.
@BAS Beats
Influence by Dre rather than a Dre beat. This is a cool piece of music and like Armani, I like some of that eastern sound/instrumentation in there. For me, beats like this are tricky. That early to mid 2000s "Aftermath" sound was really hard to get away from. It was also super polished and shiny. Your beat, while very cool and nostalgic, kinda feels like a B-side for a lesser known artist from Aftermath.
@cjcool
I really like this beat. Similar to my comments on BAS' beat - this has that "lost in the aftermath shuffle" feel. I don't mean that in a bad way either. The drums are a bit too much for Dre, but I really enjoyed it. I can imagine this being the track from an album people speak of fondly and being slept on.
@COOL J.
This is an absolutely epic track! I love everything about this beat. Any other Beat This, this would've been a contender. I just think others did a better job of tapping into the trademark sounds and nostalgia of Dre. Again, really dope!
@DJ Excellence
I can hear the influence - again, I think other's did a better job of nailing his signature sound. Maybe not my favourite from you. There sounds like some dissonance in either the strings/pad and plucks that takes me out of it too much.
@Earsblower
Another one that was on my short list. Like COOL J's beat - I feel like in any other battle, this is a serious contender. While I really like this beat, I just think the Dre fingerprints are more explicit on others' beats.
@K-waz
The epic, cinematic intro is sick! Like I said earlier, I can hear the likes of Xzibit doing un-godly things to a beat like this. As others have mentioned to, this is Chronic 2040 lol. I think most agree we can hear the extrapolation or evolution of the sound in your beat. Love the high energy. Really fucking cool!
@Mefisto Beats
The ONLY reason I didn't vote for your beat was because of the drums. Overall, this is probably my favourite of all entries, but the drums just aren't Dre - and I think you knew that and said fuck it - because these drums knock! Loved this!
@PhxAzTracmaster
LOL great title! Definitely has that Dre DNA, but the drums missed the mark IMO. The kick isn't something I'd reach for, and does't fit right with the rest of the more acoustic sounding drums. Another cool piece of music with lots of harmony and melodic content. I did like the cinematic intro.
@them
Good effort trying to get a funky bassline. I don't want to sound mean, but this and your other works sound like half finished ideas rather than fleshed out complete pieces of music. Keep working at it and study some of the guys like PAT, Bandia, and Memento.
@TjombaBeats
Not a "Dre Beat" to my ears at all. In fact, this is kinda on the fringe of conventional hip-hop. That being said there's some really cool atmosphere and emotion in this beat. I prefer the back half more as that's where the atmosphere and texture picks up.
@V.J. Retro
Another cool beat that get's all the elements. I think the challenge with a producer theme is finding a balance between 'copycat' and musical extrapolation. I definitely struggled with the theme, and this kinda sounds like you were boxed in a bit with it as well. The 50 Cent vocals also sounded like a bit of an afterthought.
@WHAT1000
Hearing a lot of progress in your music! This beat misses the mark entirely lol but as 2G mentioned, there is a really cool idea (or two) in here. Keep working!
@2GooD Productions
You got all the major hallmarks in there and made a sick beat. You got the worm synth/sine whistle lead down perfectly. If someone asked for the platonic ideal of a Dre beat - this would be it.
@hiziezer
Super smooth beat! Intro may be bit too long for the 2 minute time limit. I really liked the drums on this. The plucks that come in around the 0:40 mark are really cool. My main critique is the energy. There's a few elements in the mix that are distant and spacey coupled with a more laid back vibe, I feel like it lets the energy down. Otherwise, super cool beat!
@Iron Keys
Really liked the bass line on this. Again, you got all the hallmarks in there (piano, strings, funky bass, synth lead). I do like the "I need a doctor" vocals and how you capture this late 2000/2010s era. Mix is great as usual!
@Armani
Like the others, you got the hallmarks. Mix is great, and great groove with this one. I do like how some of that Scott Storch - eastern music - influence kinda pokes in. The only thing about this beat I didn't like was the melody that comes in at 0:27 - instrumentation and everything is cool, just didn't care for the melody.
@Mike Free Music
This was on the shortlist for my vote. I think where the others got you was a bit more complexity and mix. You have a bunch of cool elements in here, but they're tucked away in the mix a bit, that could've really contributed to a bigger more robust sound.
@BAS Beats
Influence by Dre rather than a Dre beat. This is a cool piece of music and like Armani, I like some of that eastern sound/instrumentation in there. For me, beats like this are tricky. That early to mid 2000s "Aftermath" sound was really hard to get away from. It was also super polished and shiny. Your beat, while very cool and nostalgic, kinda feels like a B-side for a lesser known artist from Aftermath.
@cjcool
I really like this beat. Similar to my comments on BAS' beat - this has that "lost in the aftermath shuffle" feel. I don't mean that in a bad way either. The drums are a bit too much for Dre, but I really enjoyed it. I can imagine this being the track from an album people speak of fondly and being slept on.
@COOL J.
This is an absolutely epic track! I love everything about this beat. Any other Beat This, this would've been a contender. I just think others did a better job of tapping into the trademark sounds and nostalgia of Dre. Again, really dope!
@DJ Excellence
I can hear the influence - again, I think other's did a better job of nailing his signature sound. Maybe not my favourite from you. There sounds like some dissonance in either the strings/pad and plucks that takes me out of it too much.
@Earsblower
Another one that was on my short list. Like COOL J's beat - I feel like in any other battle, this is a serious contender. While I really like this beat, I just think the Dre fingerprints are more explicit on others' beats.
@K-waz
The epic, cinematic intro is sick! Like I said earlier, I can hear the likes of Xzibit doing un-godly things to a beat like this. As others have mentioned to, this is Chronic 2040 lol. I think most agree we can hear the extrapolation or evolution of the sound in your beat. Love the high energy. Really fucking cool!
@Mefisto Beats
The ONLY reason I didn't vote for your beat was because of the drums. Overall, this is probably my favourite of all entries, but the drums just aren't Dre - and I think you knew that and said fuck it - because these drums knock! Loved this!
@PhxAzTracmaster
LOL great title! Definitely has that Dre DNA, but the drums missed the mark IMO. The kick isn't something I'd reach for, and does't fit right with the rest of the more acoustic sounding drums. Another cool piece of music with lots of harmony and melodic content. I did like the cinematic intro.
@them
Good effort trying to get a funky bassline. I don't want to sound mean, but this and your other works sound like half finished ideas rather than fleshed out complete pieces of music. Keep working at it and study some of the guys like PAT, Bandia, and Memento.
@TjombaBeats
Not a "Dre Beat" to my ears at all. In fact, this is kinda on the fringe of conventional hip-hop. That being said there's some really cool atmosphere and emotion in this beat. I prefer the back half more as that's where the atmosphere and texture picks up.
@V.J. Retro
Another cool beat that get's all the elements. I think the challenge with a producer theme is finding a balance between 'copycat' and musical extrapolation. I definitely struggled with the theme, and this kinda sounds like you were boxed in a bit with it as well. The 50 Cent vocals also sounded like a bit of an afterthought.
@WHAT1000
Hearing a lot of progress in your music! This beat misses the mark entirely lol but as 2G mentioned, there is a really cool idea (or two) in here. Keep working!
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@2GooD Productions
Congrats on the win, brother.
Really love the main piano/orchestral stabs vibe, think you nailed that pretty brilliantly there for that era/style. Knew it was you immediately and said 'this is my competition.' Genuinely enjoyed this beat. Also loved what you did with the vocals for the hook - I was originally going to do something similar, got a bit busy and ended up not doing it. Dope stuff.
Critique just for whatever it's worth and I know you'd appreciate - I think musically was a little off for me when some of the other elements came in, with the west coast whine. Mix wise -- nothing wrong with your mix at all, great mix, but in terms of a Dr Dre mix, especially of this style, the snare needs to be a lot crisper, maybe louder --- Dre's snares in this time were generally on the edge of being a bit too loud/crisp; I never noticed this until I improved my monitoring, I almost couldn't listen to the 2001 album. I raised this with other engineers and was advised that Dre's snares were very very sharp this era, I think it was part of some production/mastering decision for loudness. Someone showed the tone curve and the snare range was really high comparatively to general masters.
Great shit and congrats again.
Congrats on the win, brother.
Really love the main piano/orchestral stabs vibe, think you nailed that pretty brilliantly there for that era/style. Knew it was you immediately and said 'this is my competition.' Genuinely enjoyed this beat. Also loved what you did with the vocals for the hook - I was originally going to do something similar, got a bit busy and ended up not doing it. Dope stuff.
Critique just for whatever it's worth and I know you'd appreciate - I think musically was a little off for me when some of the other elements came in, with the west coast whine. Mix wise -- nothing wrong with your mix at all, great mix, but in terms of a Dr Dre mix, especially of this style, the snare needs to be a lot crisper, maybe louder --- Dre's snares in this time were generally on the edge of being a bit too loud/crisp; I never noticed this until I improved my monitoring, I almost couldn't listen to the 2001 album. I raised this with other engineers and was advised that Dre's snares were very very sharp this era, I think it was part of some production/mastering decision for loudness. Someone showed the tone curve and the snare range was really high comparatively to general masters.
Great shit and congrats again.
@BiggChev --- oh shit, this was yours!!! Great work, bro. Honestly. I thought this was going to be Delta's potentially.
You did really well at getting that old school quality on the kick and the bass --- can you tell me more about how you got that vibe?
This is a quality fucking beat, great work. Deffo not Timbo vibes. But def has the early era Dre vibe - I was going to vote for this. Wish I did now 'cause you deserved a place for this - I thought it might win/place fairly well.
I don't think I would have done as well as you at making this style of Dre beat.
You did really well at getting that old school quality on the kick and the bass --- can you tell me more about how you got that vibe?
This is a quality fucking beat, great work. Deffo not Timbo vibes. But def has the early era Dre vibe - I was going to vote for this. Wish I did now 'cause you deserved a place for this - I thought it might win/place fairly well.
I don't think I would have done as well as you at making this style of Dre beat.