what happened to the wmd

iLLVA1

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What ya'll think about this?


No Iraqi WMD, But Bush Calls War Right

While the search has now ended without finding the weapons he had warned of, the President said invading was still the proper course.

By Katherine Pfleger Shrader, Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The White House acknowledged yesterday that its hunt for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction had shut down without finding the stockpiles that President Bush cited as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

Bush's spokesman said the President had no regrets about invading Iraq.

"Based on what we know today, the President would have taken the same action," press secretary Scott McClellan said, "because this is about protecting the American people."

The Iraq Survey Group - made up of as many as 1,500 military and intelligence specialists and support staff - is ending its search of military installations, factories and laboratories where it was thought that equipment and products might be converted to making weapons.

McClellan said that at a meeting last month, Bush thanked the chief U.S. weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer, for his work. A special adviser to the CIA director, Duelfer will deliver a final edition of a report on Iraq's weapons next month. McClellan said it was not expected to fundamentally differ from the findings of a report last fall.

Duelfer said then that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and had not made any since 1991. However, he said the government harbored intentions of re-creating its weapons programs and had gone to great lengths to manipulate the U.N. oil-for-food program.

In an interview yesterday with Barbara Walters of ABC News, Bush defended his decision to invade Iraq.

"I felt like we'd find weapons of mass destruction - like many here in the United States, many around the world," Bush said in the interview, to be broadcast tomorrow night. "We need to find out what went wrong in the intelligence-gathering... . Saddam was dangerous and the world is safer without him in power."

In a statement, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) said Bush "needs to explain to the American people why he was so wrong, for so long, about the reasons for war."

When asked whether the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq would damage U.S. credibility in handling future threats, McClellan said the President would continue to work with the international community, particularly on diplomatic solutions. He said preemptive military action was "the last option" to pursue.

At the State Department, spokesman Richard Boucher said the government was paying stipends to about 120 Iraqi scientists who once worked in weapons programs. They now are working on scientific research outside weapons development.

Greg Thielmann, the former manager of the State Department office that tracked chemical, biological and nuclear weapons issues, said the United States should devote energy to employment of these scientists, who now appear to have been involved in nonweapons work under Hussein in recent years.

"Who knows what they are going to do?" asked Thielmann, who left his position in September 2002. "One can question whether we improved the security situation through the invasion."
 

pancakebunnny

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Those weapons of mass destruction turned out to be a group of kids from Arizona. Apparently they were shooting bottle rockets at a white house, and the message was misinterpreted.

I blame Barman.
 
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"because this is about protecting the American people."
Protect them from what? Not having enough oil? What about protecting the democratic union called the United Nations?
where it was thought that equipment and products might be converted to making weapons.
THOUGHT...MIGHT BE...and that's what you base a war upon?!?
"I felt like we'd find weapons of mass destruction
I feel like Bush is is a jerk and needs to be removed...but a feeling does not give me the right do to so.
When asked whether the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq would damage U.S. credibility in handling future threats, McClellan said the President would continue to work with the international community, particularly on diplomatic solutions. He said preemptive military action was "the last option" to pursue.
U.S. credibility was already damaged, in Europe at least, but this certainly hasn't helped, and I can only regret that our right wing governemt in Denmark decided to support this asshole in his war in Iraq.
"One can question whether we improved the security situation through the invasion."
One sure can...

I guess that I have clearly stated my opinion about this... ;)
 

dialogic

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ill o.g.
My thoughts are always that I know some folk are crazy but how are we gonna tell ppl to not make WMD when we're gonna keep ours locked, stocked, and loaded... And as far as Iraq, preemptive war is a stupid idea. This shit isnt' gonna make us any safer against "enemies" who we created thru our own actions and who arent' afraid to die to defeat us. How are u gonna deter someone who's grown up learning that giving your life to kill others will bring you glory in the afterlife. I go by the philosophy that the only way to fight evil is with good and in this case I guarantee that Bush is not gonna win the "war on terror"... on that point tho, i like some of what i'm hearing from 2nd term Bush, esp the other day when he apologized for taunting terrorists w/ his remarks before Iraq, I think he might finally be showing signs of growing up.
 

Lex

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I'm not sure if its appropriate for me to comment because I live in the UK, but I can't believe so many people didn't even vote for the 'lesser of two evils', Kerry, who's regime wasn't all that disimilar to Bush's if you think about it..

..Arrrg I hate politicts.
 
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what wmd? that was a part of bush's plan to distract america while he's looking for the oil. It was always about making money. But its sad that so many troops had to die just so someone else can get richer (BUSH)!!!
 

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You know what's funny, Bush started this whole war using false documents, that the CIA admits were blatantly fake. He has no regrets? What an asshole.

I personally don't like Dan Rather, but he did one bad story against Bush using false documents and he loses ALL of the credibility he has gained over the years. This seems a bit funny doesn't it.

Bush can lick these N-U-Ts.

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Somebody goin to take his ass out soon, Its only a matter of time!
 
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YOU REMEMBER THAT THE UN INSPECTORS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO IN CERTAIN AREAS IN IRAQ TO INSPECT RIGHT? YOU REALIZE THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN THE WMD CLAIM AND THE ACTUAL INVASION OF IRAQ WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS RIGHT? CLEARLY ENOUGH TO SNEAK WEAPONS TO A NEAR BY COUNTRY. SAYING IRAQ DIDNT HAVE WMD IS LIKE SAYIN CRACKHOUSES DONT HAVE ROACHES. ITS A KNOWN FACT THAT IRAQ IS UP THERE ON THE LIST OF TOP COUNTRIES THAT HARBORS THE MOST TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD. YOU MAY NOT LIKE BUSH OR WHATEVER BUT SAYIN IRAQ DIDNT HAVE WMD IS JUST LUDACRIS, MAYBE IF YOU WERE IN MANHATTAN ON SEPT 11,2001 YOUD HAVE A DIFFRENT OPINION
 

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BASTARD said:
ITS A KNOWN FACT THAT IRAQ IS UP THERE ON THE LIST OF TOP COUNTRIES THAT HARBORS THE MOST TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD. YOU MAY NOT LIKE BUSH OR WHATEVER BUT SAYIN IRAQ DIDNT HAVE WMD IS JUST LUDACRIS, MAYBE IF YOU WERE IN MANHATTAN ON SEPT 11,2001 YOUD HAVE A DIFFRENT OPINION

I'm not trying to start an argument...just adding my two cents.

Some U.S. friendly countries harbor terrorists also. Do we have to shit on North Korea and various African countries because they train and harbor terrorists too. Maybe Florida should be bombed for allowing terrorists to learn how to fly jumbo jets (Sorry Illmuzik peeps who live in FL). And yeah Iraq probably did have weapons of Mass destruction, but what country nowadays doesn't have them?

What did Iraq have to do with 9/11 anyway? NOTHING!

Don't believe the hype.

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Lex

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True, but the bottom line is no countries are to blame for terrorism as such - terrorist organisations recruit people from all over the world [not just the Middle East...], and clearly they are just people that share similar extremist views - which don't actually depend on what country they are from.
 
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BASTARD said:
YOU REMEMBER THAT THE UN INSPECTORS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO IN CERTAIN AREAS IN IRAQ TO INSPECT RIGHT? YOU REALIZE THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN THE WMD CLAIM AND THE ACTUAL INVASION OF IRAQ WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS RIGHT? CLEARLY ENOUGH TO SNEAK WEAPONS TO A NEAR BY COUNTRY. SAYING IRAQ DIDNT HAVE WMD IS LIKE SAYIN CRACKHOUSES DONT HAVE ROACHES. ITS A KNOWN FACT THAT IRAQ IS UP THERE ON THE LIST OF TOP COUNTRIES THAT HARBORS THE MOST TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD. YOU MAY NOT LIKE BUSH OR WHATEVER BUT SAYIN IRAQ DIDNT HAVE WMD IS JUST LUDACRIS, MAYBE IF YOU WERE IN MANHATTAN ON SEPT 11,2001 YOUD HAVE A DIFFRENT OPINION

Only at first, the UN inspectors were not allowed in certain places but gained access to them in the end. In the meantime, I read, these areas were under satelite surveillance (so no sneaking should be possible).
Ultimately I believe this was about 2 things, being oil and that Iraq instead had missilles with capabilities of reaching Israel, and should have made threats against Israel too.
Saudia Arabia harbours many terrorists too, or did, so why not go against the? Also, North Korea are openly saying that they will shit on what the US wants and will continue their nuclear weapons program, so why not go after them too? I certainly believe there was a hidden agenda.
 
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