Beat This! - May 20-21, 2020

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Iron Keys

Beatmaker
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 6
I really thought@Memento Beats had that. His beat is dope, the drums probly couldve used a bit more umph or a a few dcb's higher.

As always dope battles coming from ILL, missed this place man.
Hopefully Id be able to stay active again.

See you guys at the next battle!
I really loved the arpeggio.
 

Beatmaker88

Newbie
Battle Points: 17
Bro there ain't no hard feelins. You actually beat my ass at the last warzone and your beat was pretty. (I f'd with ur 3rd round beat more tho, just sayin). you have bad days and good days. this was just one of your really bad days. that's all. just keep workin an you'll learn stuff throughout time, like we all do.
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No hard feelings, this is y'all's site I'm just a participant, wasn't expecting to win, I was just saying some of these guys criticize
When they still have a lot of work to do themselves, I enter these competitions to get my sound heard I can care less for the win.
 

Memento Beats

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 362
Woooow :D Congrats to you @crog85 and thank you very much for kind words. Also I would like to say thank you to @Bugsy :D I appreciate it man and you don't know how much I'm happy to see you again here :)

I would also like to give props to runner-ups.

@StoneLockProd I mentioned it before somewhere. I'm not focusing on presenting beats for rappers here, as last two times I won with let's say "my style" beats. I am very glad that you guys know that you're listening to my beat and this is entirely my purpose :D We can't use voice tags but you can't deny someone's style and I'm very happy to see that nobody else makes beats like mine here. You are right that I could make a few beats out of the one I submitted to this battle. But this is my purpose. You know, when it comes to my recent beats I know what I want to do with them and I already told it @2GooD Productions that for the first time in my life I know what I want to do musically. :D It's a beautiful feeling when you sit to your DAW and you know what you wanna do, how you wanna do it and how you wanna mix it. I'm still trying to shape it in a better way. I'm still improving myself and I still learn. But I can honestly say I'm very very close to that. Also the structure of my beats as well as their mix is the result of my inspirations. You know, when I joined Illmuzik I was making typical beats for rappers which I still do as I'm collaborating with a few local artists. I know how to make beats for rappers but beats that I'm submitting to battles here ARE NOT MEANT FOR RAPPERS. :D It's impossible to rap on such thing and I'm well aware of that. This is because I try to experiment with dubstep, with EDM, and with many other things. I mix styles. I would say that my style is sort of musical MMA. :D Once again, these beats ARE NOT FOR RAPPERS. :D Actually, it's a good title for an album :D "These Beats Are Not For Rappers" hahahaha Maybe I should make such an album? :) Anyway thanks for feedback. :)

@ArvinArmani Honestly speaking, I have no idea what are you referring to. What chill side? If you think that my style in battles was chill then probably you mistook me for someone else. XDDDD And frankly, I don't care. I'm very happy with my submission and with this "memento style" as you all want to call it. So better be prepared for more "shouting" ... smh...
 

crosstevsky

beats architect
Battle Points: 62
Woooow :D Congrats to you @crog85 and thank you very much for kind words. Also I would like to say thank you to @Bugsy :D I appreciate it man and you don't know how much I'm happy to see you again here :)

I would also like to give props to runner-ups.

@StoneLockProd I mentioned it before somewhere. I'm not focusing on presenting beats for rappers here, as last two times I won with let's say "my style" beats. I am very glad that you guys know that you're listening to my beat and this is entirely my purpose :D We can't use voice tags but you can't deny someone's style and I'm very happy to see that nobody else makes beats like mine here. You are right that I could make a few beats out of the one I submitted to this battle. But this is my purpose. You know, when it comes to my recent beats I know what I want to do with them and I already told it @2GooD Productions that for the first time in my life I know what I want to do musically. :D It's a beautiful feeling when you sit to your DAW and you know what you wanna do, how you wanna do it and how you wanna mix it. I'm still trying to shape it in a better way. I'm still improving myself and I still learn. But I can honestly say I'm very very close to that. Also the structure of my beats as well as their mix is the result of my inspirations. You know, when I joined Illmuzik I was making typical beats for rappers which I still do as I'm collaborating with a few local artists. I know how to make beats for rappers but beats that I'm submitting to battles here ARE NOT MEANT FOR RAPPERS. :D It's impossible to rap on such thing and I'm well aware of that. This is because I try to experiment with dubstep, with EDM, and with many other things. I mix styles. I would say that my style is sort of musical MMA. :D Once again, these beats ARE NOT FOR RAPPERS. :D Actually, it's a good title for an album :D "These Beats Are Not For Rappers" hahahaha Maybe I should make such an album? :) Anyway thanks for feedback. :)

@ArvinArmani Honestly speaking, I have no idea what are you referring to. What chill side? If you think that my style in battles was chill then probably you mistook me for someone else. XDDDD And frankly, I don't care. I'm very happy with my submission and with this "memento style" as you all want to call it. So better be prepared for more "shouting" ... smh...
Definitely your beats are not for rappers...when i listen to them i always imagine sport event of some kind, like car race or mma... :) so you can think about composing for sync libraries or smt like that...mixing wise everything sounds well mixed but i think you can use compression/limiting little more lightly, that shit is loud, i always have to turn down my volume to 10% for you beat.
 

Beatmaker88

Newbie
Battle Points: 17
Bro there ain't no hard feelins. You actually beat my ass at the last warzone and your beat was pretty. (I f'd with ur 3rd round beat more tho, just sayin). you have bad days and good days. this was just one of your really bad days. that's all. just keep workin an you'll learn stuff throughout time, like we all do.
I like how you low key said my beat was trash too, smooth..."one of your really bad days". You guys are something else.
 

ArvinArmani

Producer Elite... Nuff said
Battle Points: 158
Woooow :D Congrats to you @crog85 and thank you very much for kind words. Also I would like to say thank you to @Bugsy :D I appreciate it man and you don't know how much I'm happy to see you again here :)

I would also like to give props to runner-ups.

@StoneLockProd I mentioned it before somewhere. I'm not focusing on presenting beats for rappers here, as last two times I won with let's say "my style" beats. I am very glad that you guys know that you're listening to my beat and this is entirely my purpose :D We can't use voice tags but you can't deny someone's style and I'm very happy to see that nobody else makes beats like mine here. You are right that I could make a few beats out of the one I submitted to this battle. But this is my purpose. You know, when it comes to my recent beats I know what I want to do with them and I already told it @2GooD Productions that for the first time in my life I know what I want to do musically. :D It's a beautiful feeling when you sit to your DAW and you know what you wanna do, how you wanna do it and how you wanna mix it. I'm still trying to shape it in a better way. I'm still improving myself and I still learn. But I can honestly say I'm very very close to that. Also the structure of my beats as well as their mix is the result of my inspirations. You know, when I joined Illmuzik I was making typical beats for rappers which I still do as I'm collaborating with a few local artists. I know how to make beats for rappers but beats that I'm submitting to battles here ARE NOT MEANT FOR RAPPERS. :D It's impossible to rap on such thing and I'm well aware of that. This is because I try to experiment with dubstep, with EDM, and with many other things. I mix styles. I would say that my style is sort of musical MMA. :D Once again, these beats ARE NOT FOR RAPPERS. :D Actually, it's a good title for an album :D "These Beats Are Not For Rappers" hahahaha Maybe I should make such an album? :) Anyway thanks for feedback. :)

@ArvinArmani Honestly speaking, I have no idea what are you referring to. What chill side? If you think that my style in battles was chill then probably you mistook me for someone else. XDDDD And frankly, I don't care. I'm very happy with my submission and with this "memento style" as you all want to call it. So better be prepared for more "shouting" ... smh...
It's just that If all beatmakers have an angry side and a sad side, I feel like you're always angry :D . Just sayin that your beats sound better when you ain't yelling dude. so I'ma just sit and wait for the day you find your chill pills or something idk :D
 

ArvinArmani

Producer Elite... Nuff said
Battle Points: 158
I like how you low key said my beat was trash too, smooth..."one of your really bad days". You guys are something else.
dude you're talkin like I'm part of this huge illmuzik corporation or some shit. I'm not even a mod. fade can kick my ass outta the place any day lol.
 

ArvinArmani

Producer Elite... Nuff said
Battle Points: 158
@Beatmaker88 I'm just like you man. I'm here to get heard and see how good I am, just like you. in fact I really appreciate it if people shit on my beats more. some people are probably afraid to run beatmakers off or be doucheknobs or something, so they get too nice when it comes to feedback. I mean yea, Of course my synth sounds good, of course the drums are workin, I busted my ass to make those, ok. so what is it that isn't working? why didn't I win? if everythin sounds so good then why does my beat suck? get my point? :D
 

2GooD Productions

Its a fucking conspiracy!
Moderator
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 436
So better be prepared for more "shouting" ... smh...
Listen, I say this as a friend, your mixes are TOO loud. Its good having a loud mix but there is a point where the level of distortion and loudness makes it taxing for people to listen to. When people say your song is "screaming" this is what they are trying to get across, but I dont think you are listening. Ive subtly tried to persuade you to tone the level down a bit but I didnt get anywhere last time so Im going to be a bit more blunt about it, its for your own fucking good hahahahahaha
I thought you had this one in the bag, but it was really a boom bap crowd, even if a trap beat won. If your beat wasnt so loud you could have had this one IMO.
 

Beatmaker88

Newbie
Battle Points: 17
@Beatmaker88 I'm just like you man. I'm here to get heard and see how good I am, just like you. in fact I really appreciate it if people shit on my beats more. some people are probably afraid to run beatmakers off or be doucheknobs or something, so they get too nice when it comes to feedback. I mean yea, Of course my synth sounds good, of course the drums are workin, I busted my ass to make those, ok. so what is it that isn't working? why didn't I win? if everythin sounds so good then why does my beat suck? get my point? :D
Constructive criticism is one thing, just flat out saying someone's beat is trash is another, I also understand there's a bit of favortism towards dedicated members of this site, and a soul focus on a particular sound, and from producer to beatmaker, your supposed to support different not cater to the same sample driven, beats full of loops and presets, just because the kick and the bass hit hard, I just hear music different then you guys but that's not a bad thing, but you guys make it seem like it is.
 

Memento Beats

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 362
It's just that If all beatmakers have an angry side and a sad side, I feel like you're always angry :D . Just sayin that your beats sound better when you ain't yelling dude. so I'ma just sit and wait for the day you find your chill pills or something idk :D
Said a guy who submitted a beat to the last Beat This that was too loud even for me... XDDD Stop talking shit. As I said I don't care about your opinion. ;)
 

Iron Keys

Beatmaker
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 6
@Beatmaker88 I'm just like you man. I'm here to get heard and see how good I am, just like you. in fact I really appreciate it if people shit on my beats more. some people are probably afraid to run beatmakers off or be doucheknobs or something, so they get too nice when it comes to feedback. I mean yea, Of course my synth sounds good, of course the drums are workin, I busted my ass to make those, ok. so what is it that isn't working? why didn't I win? if everythin sounds so good then why does my beat suck? get my point? :D
I think that's a danger here... thinking that 'cause you didn't win something must inherently 'suck' about your beat.

I think often it's far from the case. Look how many people had different ideas of what was hot.

It depends how people vote too... how many listens before they decide?

You gotta be careful about who you taking advice from too... for example if you're taking the ears of 5 boombap guys who don't listen/make/appreciate trap, you can be getting (respectfully) non-relevant feedback. Similarly if Señor Boombapster is getting feedback from Drillgangsta2020 they might just be getting told their beat sound outdated or whatever.

I think there's a clear formula here to winning these battles, it depends if you wanna play that game, or what you're trying to acheive.
 

2GooD Productions

Its a fucking conspiracy!
Moderator
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 436
I think that's a danger here... thinking that 'cause you didn't win something must inherently 'suck' about your beat.

I think often it's far from the case. Look how many people had different ideas of what was hot.

It depends how people vote too... how many listens before they decide?

You gotta be careful about who you taking advice from too... for example if you're taking the ears of 5 boombap guys who don't listen/make/appreciate trap, you can be getting (respectfully) non-relevant feedback. Similarly if Señor Boombapster is getting feedback from Drillgangsta2020 they might just be getting told their beat sound outdated or whatever.

I think there's a clear formula here to winning these battles, it depends if you wanna play that game, or what you're trying to acheive.
I think you are bang on the money here, it becomes a choice of do you want to win, or do you want to make the music you like.
There are guidelines to winning battles, they might not always work out, but they are a good starting point to win battles. Aggression and hardness and a dark vibe can work really well in a battle, you could have the best lofi beat going, but will it win in a battle, it could do, but what is the probability of it? Some styles of music are suited to battling, others are not. And if you dont make the style that is, then you are naturally lowering your chances of winning.

The bottom line is that these things are totally subjective and at the mercy of those that vote. You can try to improve your chances by making a more aggressive beat or you can carry on doing you and lowering your chances. Neither is wrong.
Believing in yourself and always striving to make better music everyday is the goal of all of us, whether we win beat battles or not.
 

2GooD Productions

Its a fucking conspiracy!
Moderator
*** ill o.g. ***
Battle Points: 436
For example, i was getting a bit bummed that my beat didn't get a mention... but crosstevsky hit me with some feedback that matched exactly what i was trying to achieve.

So sometimes it's more important to discover you achieved your intent.
Man I thought i was in with a chance, a contender, but I didnt even place hahahaha
But I achieved what I was going for with my beat, so to me it was a big success, the battle doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things, I did the best miltary snares Ive ever done on that beat, to me thats a huge success and I learned something very important about velocities on snare drums
 

ArvinArmani

Producer Elite... Nuff said
Battle Points: 158
@Iron Keys @2GooD Productions My point is that no beat is perfect except for Dead presidents, Shook ones, it was a good day and C.R.E.A.M. those motherfuckers can't be any better than that. but we're not Ski, Havoc, Dj pooh or Rza, so we can always improve on the objective side. besides that, You know things that I don't and I know things that you don't. or at least there's a slight chance that you don't know what I know or vice versa. so it'd be a favor to point those out. one of the ways of pointing those out is sayin "Hey, your beat sucks". we all know music is subjective and all that, so for instance if a 16 year old doucheknob says your beat sucks, it means he just has a different view and didn't expect to have to get buried in shit for 360 consecutive messages just for 1 message :D :D it's cool tho. bu the point is, when a douche says douche shit, you can learn from that. besides the fact that you can learn from Anything really and even animals can teach you stuff, You should take that as an opportunity to learn, because someone is being bold and ready to point things out for you anytime.

Btw I'm not sayin this in means of makin my ass look good or be passive aggressive or somethin AT ALL, in fact to make myself look better I should just shut up, but I'm too curios to keep this to myself so I'ma spill it. Ain't we being too... sensitive maybe? doesn't this remind you of the new hollywood political correction policies that ruined everything? I'm not saying it's the same thing or the same degree at all, we're really free at illmuzik to do almost anything, I acknowledge and appreciate that on it's every single layer and level but I'm just sayin that it just reminded me of that. maybe hollywood was like illmuzik back then, then some people started to be too sensitive or smth and it turned to the fuckup that it is right now. nah?
 
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